Norwegian Air ambulance - nice balancing act !
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Oh well, my 25 year, accident free career and reputation as captain sensible has been wrong all along. These on scene HLS organisers must help. We have.................. none of them. 99% of the time we would be landed and gone before they arrived.
I absolutely love the idea of being able to assess injuries from 500ft. I have seen dead people in cars with minor damage and have seen people step out of vehicles that were next to destroyed with no injuries.
With so few injuries and accidents in the UK, just what are we doing wrong?
I absolutely love the idea of being able to assess injuries from 500ft. I have seen dead people in cars with minor damage and have seen people step out of vehicles that were next to destroyed with no injuries.
With so few injuries and accidents in the UK, just what are we doing wrong?
Reckon your system could bear some improvements?
INITIATIVE ......the one big difference between British/ European and Americans who don't know how to use it......and the fact that they probably think Norway is a town in Oklahoma !
Now that made me laugh out loud heli1 
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Off to the airport to visit mickey mouse in florida. Two weeks, knowing the great british public are safer without me there.
M-I-C-K-E-Y-M-O-U-S-E!
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Looks like the kind of landing site SAS could manage, except of course there should be one or two more police cars surrounding the extremities of the landing area, an enormous white "H" and a windsock! 
What was that Prick's Major Malfunction?
I would have told him to get Fecked....but then I have a very short tolerance of officious Pricks like him.
There is a move on by Police in this country to stop Citizens from filming them in the performance of their duties....which I think stems from so many devastating videos of them when they do naughty deeds...which leads them getting sued in Civil Court and tried in Criminal Court.
It is an over reaction to the situation....as very much demonstrated by Capt. Smart (what a perfect name for this guy!!!) in the Video. Smart Ass should have been attending to his duties and not getting in this guy's face.
Captain Smart would not want me for a Chief....as he would be the Former Captain Smart now wearing a Red Vest at Walmart or something similar.
Bottom,
Sorry Mate....no Windsocks.....just a ground guide who stands with his back to the wind....and with a radio telling you about Wires and other Hazards he sees.
Of course that doesn't mean he sees all of them.
At Night....he might even have Lighted Wands to wave about too. Not that Pilots pay much attention to them.
I have even landed to to a spot marked by Bean Bag Lights....but then what the heck...it made my job easier.
It is common knowledge you Brits like to "muddle through" and embrace that as a badge of honour of some sort....but really guys....don't you equip your Fire Brigade with a bit more than Piss Cans, Extension Ladders, Axes and a bit of Hose?
An average EMS Operation.....how does it compare to yours?
I would have told him to get Fecked....but then I have a very short tolerance of officious Pricks like him.
There is a move on by Police in this country to stop Citizens from filming them in the performance of their duties....which I think stems from so many devastating videos of them when they do naughty deeds...which leads them getting sued in Civil Court and tried in Criminal Court.
It is an over reaction to the situation....as very much demonstrated by Capt. Smart (what a perfect name for this guy!!!) in the Video. Smart Ass should have been attending to his duties and not getting in this guy's face.
Captain Smart would not want me for a Chief....as he would be the Former Captain Smart now wearing a Red Vest at Walmart or something similar.
Bottom,
Sorry Mate....no Windsocks.....just a ground guide who stands with his back to the wind....and with a radio telling you about Wires and other Hazards he sees.
Of course that doesn't mean he sees all of them.
At Night....he might even have Lighted Wands to wave about too. Not that Pilots pay much attention to them.
I have even landed to to a spot marked by Bean Bag Lights....but then what the heck...it made my job easier.
It is common knowledge you Brits like to "muddle through" and embrace that as a badge of honour of some sort....but really guys....don't you equip your Fire Brigade with a bit more than Piss Cans, Extension Ladders, Axes and a bit of Hose?
An average EMS Operation.....how does it compare to yours?
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I think SENsless would have Capt. Smart get a chainsaw to cut down the palm trees seen in the background. They must be well within 300ft of the helicopter landing point! Nice to see that the paramedics spend all their time after the helicopter arrives dealing with 'the cameraman' and not with the patient transfer. 
So far this thread has sacked a Pilot, based on a 40 second video, and a Paramedic in similar circumstances. One for doing his job, and the other for not...
So far this thread has sacked a Pilot, based on a 40 second video, and a Paramedic in similar circumstances. One for doing his job, and the other for not...
Sid,
You might recall all US EMS Operations must comply with FAR Part 91 and FAR Part 135 Rules and Regulations along with their Operator's FAR Part 135 OPSPECS which detail the size and types of Landing Zones, the required Lighting and all that kind of stuff.
What CAA rules, JAR, JAA, EASA, or whatever the hell ya'll have to work under today...as it seems to change over there about as often as I change my underwear?
Does your Authority set forth the allowable dimensions of a landing zone?
Do you abide by those rules?
You might recall all US EMS Operations must comply with FAR Part 91 and FAR Part 135 Rules and Regulations along with their Operator's FAR Part 135 OPSPECS which detail the size and types of Landing Zones, the required Lighting and all that kind of stuff.
What CAA rules, JAR, JAA, EASA, or whatever the hell ya'll have to work under today...as it seems to change over there about as often as I change my underwear?
Does your Authority set forth the allowable dimensions of a landing zone?
Do you abide by those rules?
An average EMS Operation.....how does it compare to yours?
We usually shut down the engines.
skadi
Sasless - it might be time to admit defeat and walk away from this one.
I acknowledge your viewpoint and experience of US HEMS but you are making harsh calls on pilot's professionalism without most of the required information. Shooting from the hip might be the sort of activity Capt Smart seems to enjoy but it is beneath you.
I acknowledge your viewpoint and experience of US HEMS but you are making harsh calls on pilot's professionalism without most of the required information. Shooting from the hip might be the sort of activity Capt Smart seems to enjoy but it is beneath you.
except of course there should be one or two more police cars surrounding the extremities of the landing area, an enormous white "H" and a windsock!
How about making it illegal to have any emergency under other circumstances than at an airport, during daylight hours and off course when CAVOK
Sas,
This pilots greatest exposure to risk is actually the drive to and from work!
This pilots greatest exposure to risk is actually the drive to and from work!
That old Saw don't cut.
Of all the Helicopter Pilots I know who snuffed it....and there are dozens.........exactly one died in a car wreck.
The others died in Helicopters.
Some just flat disappeared never to be found again.
Perhaps all those guys were better drivers than they were pilots or something....but most died because of mechanical failures or from outside help.
Thank god I did my HEMS in the late 80's before common sense was force removed from the average pilot....
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I think it a shame that SASLESS seems to be a bit of the "Duty Target" at the moment. He clearly has enormous experience in many rotary fields, and has made a fantastic contribution to a lot of threads over the years.
You may not agree with all that he posts - but lighten up chaps - he is no fool................
PS I have no idea who he is. I would like to meet him though.
You may not agree with all that he posts - but lighten up chaps - he is no fool................
PS I have no idea who he is. I would like to meet him though.
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I have no idea who he is. I would like to meet him though.
SASless;
Of all the Helicopter Pilots I know who snuffed it....and there are dozens.........exactly one died in a car wreck.
The others died in Helicopters.
Of all the Helicopter Pilots I know who snuffed it....and there are dozens.........exactly one died in a car wreck.
The others died in Helicopters.
