R44 crash and burns in parking lot in Kendall, Miami
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R44 crash and burns in parking lot in Kendall, Miami
A report says that it was conducting a maintenance test flight from an nearby airfield.
Reports from several eyewitnesses that it was on fire before it fell.
Helicopter Down In SW Miami-Dade, 2 Dead « CBS Miami
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Reports from several eyewitnesses that it was on fire before it fell.
Helicopter Down In SW Miami-Dade, 2 Dead « CBS Miami
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Rip both accupants, very sad.
Sounds like another post-crash fire. I wonder if that one was fitted with fuel bladders
Sounds like another post-crash fire. I wonder if that one was fitted with fuel bladders
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Looking at the separated tail section (stobe light back) and the post impact wreckage I sincerely doubt they lived to see the post crash fire. It hit very hard.
not a pretty sight!
RIP indeed!
not a pretty sight!
RIP indeed!
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Sad to read this
I am very sad to learn that this helicopter crashed and the pilot and passenger died.
I flew with the pilot in back in 2009 in that helicopter which crashed and he was a very experienced pilot...
I flew with the pilot in back in 2009 in that helicopter which crashed and he was a very experienced pilot...
Poor sods. Nothing more heart rendering than being that close to fellow human beings in desperate need of assistance.
The guy in orange may be foolhardy, but at the time of extraction they didn't know it was too late, I suppose.
I find this picture very moving indeed. RIP.
The guy in orange may be foolhardy, but at the time of extraction they didn't know it was too late, I suppose.
I find this picture very moving indeed. RIP.
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Centre of Gravity?
RIP, and I agree the guy in the orange deserves a medal.
If the tail-rotor (and possibly the tail rotor gearbox) actually separate from the aircraft in flight, can the R44 sustain that from a C of G standpoint? I know that proved terminal for a Jet Ranger in scotland some years ago.
Also, in forward flight, I wonder if that made entering an autorotation problematic or even impossible because of the resulting nose-down pitching moment?!
That tail rotor landed more than a hundred feet away from the rest of the helicopter.
Also, in forward flight, I wonder if that made entering an autorotation problematic or even impossible because of the resulting nose-down pitching moment?!
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A sobering picture; a terrible tragedy for all concerned. It certainly looks like the blades had little or no rotation at the point of impact.
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If the tail-rotor (and possibly the tail rotor gearbox) actually separate from the aircraft in flight, can the R44 sustain that from a C of G standpoint? I know that proved terminal for a Jet Ranger in scotland some years ago.
If you look at the photo the aircraft was being tracked and balanced for the main rotor. You can see the orange tape down the side of the main rotor mast pylon. this tape holds the magnetic pickup wiring down the pylon and eventually into the cabin for track and balance. Not sure if that had anything to do with the accident as it seems from the picture that both main rotor blades are still attached.
On a personal note I worked with the deceased pilot/owner about 7+ years ago. He flew for the company I work for and was a damn good pilot and person. RIP Mark.
On a personal note I worked with the deceased pilot/owner about 7+ years ago. He flew for the company I work for and was a damn good pilot and person. RIP Mark.
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Helofixer, A mighty compliment Sir. Condolences to all concerned..
I did a couple of calculations and figured the resultant Cof G just inside, by guessing departed weight at 20 pounds and from station 330.
I don't have real details to hand and used raven II sample I had laying around. Gave me 2029 lbs at moment 188,000 or so.
This depends on MT Cof G. I always try to rig these things as far aft as possible MT of load. A nuisance sometimes with a light pilot, but there you go.
I think we would all hope it didn't.
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I put the fuel at 130 lbs total and the crew at 200 lbs each with another 12 lbs of gear split fwd and rear seat.. fuel sits at 106" main and 102" aux tank.
I did a couple of calculations and figured the resultant Cof G just inside, by guessing departed weight at 20 pounds and from station 330.
I don't have real details to hand and used raven II sample I had laying around. Gave me 2029 lbs at moment 188,000 or so.
This depends on MT Cof G. I always try to rig these things as far aft as possible MT of load. A nuisance sometimes with a light pilot, but there you go.
Not sure if that had anything to do with the accident
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I put the fuel at 130 lbs total and the crew at 200 lbs each with another 12 lbs of gear split fwd and rear seat.. fuel sits at 106" main and 102" aux tank.
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