FMS: what the heck is that acronym???
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FMS: what the heck is that acronym???
Hi fellows.
After more or less 2 years flying the AW139, we've began to understand each other. This have made me more concious of what's going on. And here goes my question... Does anybody knows where i can find the meaning of the acronism used by the FMS, specially those used for IFR aPproaches?.
There are a few that i've discovered (i'm not very smart), like point introduced as lat/long, are named on FMS as LL and a number. Also with point defined as bearing/distance are PBD. But all those used on IFR, like CI on IF or FI on FAP, don't seem to have any meaning for me.
So, PLEASE, help me on this; i know there are lot of you that have been using the FMS for a while.
Thanks.
After more or less 2 years flying the AW139, we've began to understand each other. This have made me more concious of what's going on. And here goes my question... Does anybody knows where i can find the meaning of the acronism used by the FMS, specially those used for IFR aPproaches?.
There are a few that i've discovered (i'm not very smart), like point introduced as lat/long, are named on FMS as LL and a number. Also with point defined as bearing/distance are PBD. But all those used on IFR, like CI on IF or FI on FAP, don't seem to have any meaning for me.
So, PLEASE, help me on this; i know there are lot of you that have been using the FMS for a while.
Thanks.
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After more or less 2 years flying the AW139, we've began to understand each other. This have made me more concious of what's going on. And here goes my question... Does anybody knows where i can find the meaning of the acronism used by the FMS, specially those used for IFR aPproaches?.
There are a few that i've discovered (i'm not very smart), like point introduced as lat/long, are named on FMS as LL and a number. Also with point defined as bearing/distance are PBD. But all those used on IFR, like CI on IF or FI on FAP, don't seem to have any meaning for me.
There are a few that i've discovered (i'm not very smart), like point introduced as lat/long, are named on FMS as LL and a number. Also with point defined as bearing/distance are PBD. But all those used on IFR, like CI on IF or FI on FAP, don't seem to have any meaning for me.
You are kidding, right?
I'm with Tottigol here.
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I Googled "Avionics FMS" and got this ....
Flight Management Systems - Avionics & Electronics - Honeywell Aerospace
Could be a clue or two ... dunno.
Flight Management Systems - Avionics & Electronics - Honeywell Aerospace
Could be a clue or two ... dunno.
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I doubt Mr. Koamill will ever ask a question again on this forum with replies like these.
However for those of us that do not have access to the FMS flight manuals for the 139 it would be very interesting to know what the meaning of the following acronyms is?
Anyone care to actually answer the man?
However for those of us that do not have access to the FMS flight manuals for the 139 it would be very interesting to know what the meaning of the following acronyms is?
Anyone care to actually answer the man?
But all those used on IFR, like CI on IF or FI on FAP, don't seem to have any meaning for me.
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But judging by the types that he flies and his location, I can hazard a guess about which company he works for. So he might not actually have a worthwhile training department that he can turn to...
See my first point above.
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Rather than just answer the two examples given - which I can as I have a working knowledge of ARINC 424 conventions - I tried to find something useful. Try reading this: http://www.keilir.net/static/files/F...manual-kka.pdf Page 80 onwards answers the two specific queries, plus many more, and the whole document will probably teach you a lot.
Our FMS manual (UNS-1 ESp) would not answer these queries, so I'm not sure if the Honeywell one would (though I'll find out soon!)
What complicates it further is that these terms are used as ARINC 424 Leg Types (Course to a Fix and Course to Intercept) but are not the same.
Our FMS manual (UNS-1 ESp) would not answer these queries, so I'm not sure if the Honeywell one would (though I'll find out soon!)
What complicates it further is that these terms are used as ARINC 424 Leg Types (Course to a Fix and Course to Intercept) but are not the same.
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Adroight - I wasn't implying that their training was not up to scratch but rather if anyone had a library they would. It was early in the morning 
But you're right - there's no excuse for not doing your homework (duty of care to passengers and all that), but a training captain should have picked it up by now as well.
phil
But you're right - there's no excuse for not doing your homework (duty of care to passengers and all that), but a training captain should have picked it up by now as well.
phil
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Hi everybody, this message was a nice and funny way to ask if anybody had a honeywell manula where i can find this acronism and what's their meaning... Anyway, i'll send you my mail Bravo.
Thankss Mrs knowitalls!!!!
Thankss Mrs knowitalls!!!!
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Read my link - it explains what you need and more (which is why I posted it and not just answered the specific two queries.) I actually doubt the OEM FMS manual will have that level of detail, but it may (My FMS manual doesn't.)
