new helicopter company

[r44hopeful]

Hello you lot, never posted before, never needed too, so much info on this site i didnt want to waist your time. My idea was to get my ppl and. cpl then open a company up doing r44 clippers to the tourist market but through research and getting back to why im doing this and all the things ive read, ive changed my mind. Ive had companies before where it becomes an extention of a hobbie or a desire.... im after money. Ive heard the jokes how do you make £1m....... start with two... and if it flys f**** or floats rent it.
My idea now is too start a company and hire pilots, im in it for the money and to be honest I dont want to be expensive taxi driver, a year on... will bore me, Im selling up in the uk, house,land,everything to open this, i cant be the only one who has thought of this. ive researched heli companies Dom Republic,( heli seychelles (and why they failed)),Bali air etc so eyes wide open, I cant be the only one who has thought of this. if were to be in the right place at the right time the place is confidential at this point, as this is key.I know the non asset base will be just as expensive as the set up cost but i can see the company growing to 4x r44 plus one twin for those who wont fly anything eles. Thoughts please. yes hire a pro consultant, good well trained mech, sales team, and then wait six months for the governments approval yes got all that, what eles?

[Anthony Supplebottom]

Going to make a cuppa, come back and watch the replies. Should be entertaining!

[r44hopeful]

yes i can imagine but all news is good news im throwing everything at this so i want to hear it all.

[r44hopeful]

not uk based, pointless, no sun no tourist and caa yes got that too.

[JB-123]

What eles?.....Learn to speak English would be a start!

[Gordy]

Hello you lot, never posted before

Ahh but you have, back in March of 08:

faa aoc cert
hi all im strugling to get info in here about getting an faa aoc anyone point me in the right direction tried all combo's of it in search but to no avail, dont let my tag full u ive moved on from that now

[Grenville Fortescue]

And what's with calling everyone "you lot"?

I have to agree with JB-123, "i didnt want to waist your time." Really?

There are so many holes in your proposition I wouldn't know where to start!

[Aucky]

Before this thread get's overrun with the incoming I'll make a serious suggestion - If you want to make any money, and reduce your personal exposure to risk, don't own the helicopters yourself! The bills get bigger than you might expect, and might well not be scheduled. Find local wealthy benefactors who are prepared to own, insure, and maintain the aircraft for their occasional enjoyment (at a loss), and lease them in an attractive rate, profiting from your additional margin and maintenance, if you can provide it.

[r44hopeful]

sorry, if my spelling was incorrect, i was looking for DONT do this for fleck sake because ..... and then a good reason.Have you researched this, ie the faa rules that a non U.S. resident cant own a company flying a faa flag, or that a i dont know the rules with owning a company not being a resident of that country, or if its based in another country what flight rules apply? I need help. This will be a mix of FAA and CAA and Easa not sure which door to open and how.

[r44hopeful]

sorry for" wasting" your time. I'll go it alone. and sorry for saying" you lot" it was a term of enderment. i will keep going with this. I thought i might get help with opening a new company, just advice, business im good at talking to pilots ... clearly im not, sorry if i offended anyone.

[r44hopeful]

and finally isnt it people like me who are willing to put everything at risk to open new companies who employ pilots like you, yet all i get is hassle? go figure.

[Gordy]

Maybe if you told us where and what the proposal is, we may be able to help. Your original synopsis is too vague, it could refer to anywhere in the world.

[Grenville Fortescue]

Gordy, the gentleman is reluctant to divulge his project location because he believes he has divined a location which has hitherto remained untapped for helicopter charter exploitation.

His plan is to offer tourist flights using a float equipped R44 somewhere in the Caribbean - that's what I can determine from the original post. But, there are so many questions which he seems not to have thought about that it beggars belief.

Looks like he could use plenty of professional support.

[r44hopeful]

wow a positive response, but i think i'll take this somewhere eles, you all moan about bosses and conditions you make me laf. if i werent for people like me where is the future for young pilots?

[nomorehelosforme]

Shame, use of the English language has not improved! Try spell check before clicking submit might help!

[Aucky]

if i werent for people like me where is the future for young pilots?

With respect, it's with people who are a good few years ahead of you, with operational businesses, who probably understood a little more about what is required prior to starting their helicopter company. The response you get is to be expected, because your not the first, and wont be the last to post something very similar to your opening post today. Sadly it oozes naivety, which means readers automatically assume that the likelihood of the their input having any value long term is very slim, so many won't bother.

I cant be the only one who has thought of this

Precisely, you are not the first to think of this, most people have at some point fantasised about the possibility of having a little operation in the sun, and the figures can be made to seem appealing, initially, but most come to the conclusion that actually it's more hassle than it's worth, will take a huge amount of effort, a lot of experience and complete dedication, and for very little margin. It is of course doable, but you have a long road, and lots of relatively basic research to do before you will get any useful responses.

This will be a mix of FAA and CAA and Easa not sure which door to open and how.

This is what I mean, things you should establish with the local authority in confidence before asking here, people cannot help when you're going to be secretive over the location. It will depend largely on which overseas territory the Islands(?) are governed by etc. You may have a choice in some instances if the territory in near the US but a foreign overseas territory, and there is a clear benefit to accepting FAA regs, such as St Maarten, BVI etc. You should start by establishing this from somebody within the local government... There is a lot that you need to establish before you will be anywhere near becoming the white knight (that you seem to think of yourself as) that is going to help all lowtime R44 pilots. I get your point. It's important that businesses continue to develop, for the industry, but it's probably worth doing a little more work in the industry, as a pilot perhaps, to better understand it before selling up to start a business.

[md 600 driver]

R44
Sorry I can't help ,never had a r44 or done charter but I do wish you luck and hope you make good profits and have a nice life

If i was younger My idea of heaven would be sitting on the end of a pier taking flights in the sun

[Anthony Supplebottom]

Aucky, you are risking bringing my evening's entertainment to a close!

Henceforth let him be known as - "Aucky the Samaritan"

r44hopeful, try listening to what Aucky has said, including his earlier post about cost savings through client purchased aircraft.

Edited to add: MD600, why not try Blackpool!

[Thomas coupling]

Has he gone?

[r44hopeful]

no still here im just going to give u a better response, thankfully im getting good feed back now back in 5