Just another day at work?
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From: Top of the World
Airmanship = Safety First
What's wrong with a down wind approach 
if there is no other option then You gotta do what You gotta do.....but if there ever is the option; then always know where the wind is & do everything into wind, except pee 
if there is no other option then You gotta do what You gotta do.....but if there ever is the option; then always know where the wind is & do everything into wind, except pee
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From: Redding CA, or on a fire somewhere
Adroight...
Guessing you are not a "working" pilot... Only about 20C% of my approaches/landings are into wind... This is normal once you leave the private pilot/training world.
Guessing you are not a "working" pilot... Only about 20C% of my approaches/landings are into wind... This is normal once you leave the private pilot/training world.
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From: Top of the World
Namaste Gordy
I guess I must be also in the private Pilot "non working" catergory too hehehe with 23years on the training wheels hmmmmm I still Prefer an into wind approach to give me more options, more safety & less stress
Down wind approaches are never normal...with many inherit risks, for me it's the last option if absolutly nothing else is available
Happy Landings always
VF
I guess I must be also in the private Pilot "non working" catergory too hehehe with 23years on the training wheels hmmmmm I still Prefer an into wind approach to give me more options, more safety & less stress
Down wind approaches are never normal...with many inherit risks, for me it's the last option if absolutly nothing else is available
Happy Landings always
VF
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From: Top of the World
Airmanship
just re-watched the video; great filming work. 
Yep 100% tail-wind approach, wind is at 5 o'clock. The worst place to have it - hello LTE
If You must do a tailwind approach then try & put the wind on the power pedal side
Happy Landings
VF
Yep 100% tail-wind approach, wind is at 5 o'clock. The worst place to have it - hello LTE
If You must do a tailwind approach then try & put the wind on the power pedal side
Happy Landings
VF
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From: F8 and Be There
Looking at the very beginning and the final few frames, the wind sock looks pretty limp, negligible wind?
Great piece of aerial filming, would love to hear the story behind it / camera ship etc.
MS
Great piece of aerial filming, would love to hear the story behind it / camera ship etc.
MS
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From: At home
Well, maybe the crew decided on that approach because it was the one coming into the helipad with the least amount of overflying stuff on the ground?? As I see it, that 100% tailwind indication might be due to the downwash, or at least amplified by it..(as picture 6 in the series below would suggest)
Now, if you're doing V-ref production longline into a lot of different places, you WILL find yourself quite often in tail-wind or in downdrafts, or you have been fortunate enough to not fly in really challenging places......yet.
As for flying heavy helicopters onto small pads, I am just assuming your're flying offshore and with all due respect for that, you allways have two different headings for doing the approach no?! Or landing at an alternate rig, or going home as a last option?
Allways do it into the wind when you have the option, but at least from my experience allthough my average is not as low as 20% of approaches, they are far from being the odd ones either.
Now, if you're doing V-ref production longline into a lot of different places, you WILL find yourself quite often in tail-wind or in downdrafts, or you have been fortunate enough to not fly in really challenging places......yet.
As for flying heavy helicopters onto small pads, I am just assuming your're flying offshore and with all due respect for that, you allways have two different headings for doing the approach no?! Or landing at an alternate rig, or going home as a last option?
Allways do it into the wind when you have the option, but at least from my experience allthough my average is not as low as 20% of approaches, they are far from being the odd ones either.
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From: UK
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From: Dubai
Downwind?
Never ever believe the wind sock on the Burj al Arab!
Flags on the adjacent Jumeirah Beach Hotel however give a good indication.
Well done to the guys who stepped in at short notice and some sharp filming.
Flags on the adjacent Jumeirah Beach Hotel however give a good indication.
Well done to the guys who stepped in at short notice and some sharp filming.
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From: Cornwall
Thank God, something sunny and bright to look at amongst all the greyness of the past few days....... I can never get over the incredible stuff you "heli pilots can do with your "copters".....
The RN SAR guys down here do some pretty miraculous stuff too, albeit not quite so glamorous.....
Thanks for a great link.
The RN SAR guys down here do some pretty miraculous stuff too, albeit not quite so glamorous.....
Thanks for a great link.