Clipped a helo at FL120 or...clipped a hangar at FL001?
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Clipped a helo at FL120 or...clipped a hangar at FL001?
Doesn't stack up but happy to be corrected. Follow the link at the bottom.
Accident: Syrian Arab A320 near Damascus on Sep 20th 2012, mid air collision with helicopter
A Syrian Arab Airlines Airbus A320-200, registration YK-AKF performing flight RB-501 from Damascus to Latakia (Syria), was climbing through FL120 out of Damascus when the main rotor of a military helicopter clipped the upper half of the vertical stabilizer and rudder off the airliner. The helicopter crashed, the A320 was able to return to Damascus for a safe landing. The helicopter crew died, there were no injuries aboard the A320, the A320 received substantial damage.
A replacement Airbus A320-200 registration YK-AKC reached Latakia and onward destination Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates) with a delay of 5 hours.
Syria's Information Ministry reported the aircraft carried 200 people.
The damage of YK-AKF:
Accident: Syrian Arab A320 near Damascus on Sep 20th 2012, mid air collision with helicopter
Accident: Syrian Arab A320 near Damascus on Sep 20th 2012, mid air collision with helicopter
A Syrian Arab Airlines Airbus A320-200, registration YK-AKF performing flight RB-501 from Damascus to Latakia (Syria), was climbing through FL120 out of Damascus when the main rotor of a military helicopter clipped the upper half of the vertical stabilizer and rudder off the airliner. The helicopter crashed, the A320 was able to return to Damascus for a safe landing. The helicopter crew died, there were no injuries aboard the A320, the A320 received substantial damage.
A replacement Airbus A320-200 registration YK-AKC reached Latakia and onward destination Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates) with a delay of 5 hours.
Syria's Information Ministry reported the aircraft carried 200 people.
The damage of YK-AKF:
Accident: Syrian Arab A320 near Damascus on Sep 20th 2012, mid air collision with helicopter
Last edited by Steve76; 25th Sep 2012 at 22:57.
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That must have been one fast helicopter.. overtaking an A320 like this. Or maybe they were flying inverted or it would be pretty difficult to do this kind of damage and not strike the wings or stabilator at all.
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Clipped a helo at FL120 or...clipped a hangar at FL001?
Militay helicopters in a"war zone" do not use to adhere to airspace regulations as they do in peace time I guess. Besides this, most medium to heavy helicopters are IFR cerfitied and can fly IFR at FL120.
I guess this one was not a controlled IFR flight and it was not using transponder either.
I guess this one was not a controlled IFR flight and it was not using transponder either.
12,000 feet in a helicopter is no big deal.....so long as the ground elevation is 11,800 feet.
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Helicopter -v- FW
Back in the late 70s a Sea Harrier and a Wessex 5 were in the instrument pattern at RNAS Yeovilton and due to an ATC oversight they met. The tail wheel of the Wessex carved a groove in the tail-fin of the Sea Harrier.
Strange things can and do happen!
G.
Strange things can and do happen!
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Geoffers,
That was Bast0n, photos and narrative in Post 307 of What is it about the Wessex that makes people so fond of it?
That was Bast0n, photos and narrative in Post 307 of What is it about the Wessex that makes people so fond of it?
The tail wheel of the Wessex carved a groove in the tail-fin of the Sea Harrier.
Actually....isn't that "Bast0n The Blessed" to whom we refer!
The pilot of the police 355 now sits on a cloud at the CAA...just to split hairs it was a Tucano and it hit the stinger, not the fin. ISTR the Tucano crew reported they were both momentarily heads-in at the moment of impact.
If I'd just bumped in to somebody I would have been "momentarily heads-in" too
If I'd just bumped in to somebody I would have been "momentarily heads-in" too
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It's cooler and saves fuel!
Asking for permission to enter airspace Charlie at FL 100 in order to catch some nice tailwind (groundspeed of 170 kts in a B407) I had the following radio communication:
Radar: "... Could you please confirm your callsign is D-H...."
Me:"Affirm, callsign is D-H ..." (In Germany a callsign starting with D-H ... always indicates that you are a helicopter)
Radar: "D-H ... Could you please confirm you are a helicopter."
Me: "Affirm, D-H ... is a helicopter."
Radar: "We just had a little discussion here. FL 100 and a groundspeed of 170 kts just didn`t seem to be right for a helicopter."
Reports or rumours say a Mi8 or Mi17.
I´m not buying it. Something is fishy here
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I guess I will have to buy the story! This picture does look like this could have been a rotor strike. Reports now say it´s not confirmed if the A320 was on approach or departure.
I´m not buying it. Something is fishy here
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I guess I will have to buy the story! This picture does look like this could have been a rotor strike. Reports now say it´s not confirmed if the A320 was on approach or departure.
Last edited by Aesir; 29th Sep 2012 at 11:17. Reason: found new picture of tail
