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olymbec - you should at least try asking Bell seeing as you are not far away from them.
vertical - I think there are a group of us who readily agree that the Robinson is not a real helicopter and should originally have been classified as an ultra-light or maybe even a large scale model!
Out of interest, is there an equivalent to the GX in the Squirrel family, ie. glass cockpit with integrated GPS map etc.?
vertical - I think there are a group of us who readily agree that the Robinson is not a real helicopter and should originally have been classified as an ultra-light or maybe even a large scale model!
Out of interest, is there an equivalent to the GX in the Squirrel family, ie. glass cockpit with integrated GPS map etc.?
Out of interest, is there an equivalent to the GX in the Squirrel family, ie. glass cockpit with integrated GPS map etc.?
The G500H by Garmin has been available for optional installation on the Ecureuil series since last year as per the following:
The system includes:
- Synthetic Vision
- HTAWS (Helicopter Terrain Avoidance and Warning System)
- Satellite Weather
- CLEAR CAS (Collision Avoidance System)
- WAAS (Wide Area Augmentation System) [Uses enhanced GPS signals to enable IFR operations and vertical glidepath approaches into non-ILS equipped landing areas]
- Optional Audio Panel (which receives voice activated commands and allows you to replay ATC messages)
.. and a number of other features.
March 2011
EASA has awarded certification to Garmin and European helicopter and aircraft services provider Kuerzi Avionics AG for the installation of the Garmin G500H glass cockpit in the Eurocopter AS350. With this STC, any authorized Garmin aviation dealer can install a G500H in an AS350 in accordance with EASA guidelines.
EASA has awarded certification to Garmin and European helicopter and aircraft services provider Kuerzi Avionics AG for the installation of the Garmin G500H glass cockpit in the Eurocopter AS350. With this STC, any authorized Garmin aviation dealer can install a G500H in an AS350 in accordance with EASA guidelines.
The system includes:
- Synthetic Vision
- HTAWS (Helicopter Terrain Avoidance and Warning System)
- Satellite Weather
- CLEAR CAS (Collision Avoidance System)
- WAAS (Wide Area Augmentation System) [Uses enhanced GPS signals to enable IFR operations and vertical glidepath approaches into non-ILS equipped landing areas]
- Optional Audio Panel (which receives voice activated commands and allows you to replay ATC messages)
.. and a number of other features.
Still out of the thread ... But it's for Anthony 
Sarasota Avionics has done a good job on this EC130B4 Sarasota Avionics Aircraft Panel Gallery (and we can see the engine glass display VEMD)
Sarasota Avionics has done a good job on this EC130B4 Sarasota Avionics Aircraft Panel Gallery (and we can see the engine glass display VEMD)
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Thanks for the idea. I will make a copy of the checklist in the POH and laminate it for easy access and durability.
Going to fly a few hours in the GX tomorrow, so looking forward to it.
Going to fly a few hours in the GX tomorrow, so looking forward to it.
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Savoy, your notes on the Garmin unit and the mention of RT playback, does this mean that a CVR facility is closer to becoming a more accessible reality for light helicopters?
35sec recording.
The recording option is integrated in the Garmin ICS. If I remember correctly it only records the last 35 sec!
The Garmin 500H / 1000H or any Garmin unit actually are very user friendly and reliable. I absolutely love them and it will be interesting to see the BH-525 Relentless with the G5000H touchscreen unit.
A CVR is not installed in light helicopters because it is not required and is cost prohibitive. However anyone can use Bluetooth/audio jack type headset and record on the smartphone (Flight mode!) or digital recorder if they desire.
The Garmin 500H / 1000H or any Garmin unit actually are very user friendly and reliable. I absolutely love them and it will be interesting to see the BH-525 Relentless with the G5000H touchscreen unit.
A CVR is not installed in light helicopters because it is not required and is cost prohibitive. However anyone can use Bluetooth/audio jack type headset and record on the smartphone (Flight mode!) or digital recorder if they desire.
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GF: Aesir has answered the question.
What I can say is that it would be a small thing for Garmin (or any of the other integrated systems manufacturers) to incorporate full (ie. several hours worth) intercom and ATC recording so yes, we are one step closer to having CVR coverage for light helicopters but .. it will take (at a guess) the better part of the next two decades before we see a substantive proportion of the light helicopter population flying 'on glass'.
Once that happens however it would not surprise me if pilots are encouraged to 'offer' a commentary (if this does not distract from their primary response) during emergency situations.
In single pilot operations for example, where there are sometimes few or even no witnesses to incidents and accidents, such recordings could provide valuable clues to investigators.
What I can say is that it would be a small thing for Garmin (or any of the other integrated systems manufacturers) to incorporate full (ie. several hours worth) intercom and ATC recording so yes, we are one step closer to having CVR coverage for light helicopters but .. it will take (at a guess) the better part of the next two decades before we see a substantive proportion of the light helicopter population flying 'on glass'.
Once that happens however it would not surprise me if pilots are encouraged to 'offer' a commentary (if this does not distract from their primary response) during emergency situations.
In single pilot operations for example, where there are sometimes few or even no witnesses to incidents and accidents, such recordings could provide valuable clues to investigators.
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Although voice is not recorded the 407 GX records pretty much everything else (altitude, X,Y,Z axis, speed and engine data . . .)
Its just missing that one last little bit.
Its just missing that one last little bit.
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I think both voice and control input "sample" rates go up a bit if you're on your way to a crash! 
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Bell Helicopter introduces new 407GX autopilot
Turning into quite a nice little package. No wonder it now accounts for over 80% of 407 sales.
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Turning into quite a nice little package. No wonder it now accounts for over 80% of 407 sales.
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