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Sounds like you can ask permission to enter/cross?
Q) EGTT/QRTCA/IV/BO/AW/000/025/5132N00000E003
B) FROM: 12/06/19 08:00C) TO: 12/07/13 22:59
E) STRATFORD RESTRICTION OF FLYING REGULATIONS.
RESTRICTED AIRSPACE(TEMPORARY) HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED UNDER ARTICLE
161 OF THE ANO 2009. NO AIRCRAFT IS TO FLY BELOW 2500 FEET ABOVE
MEAN SEA LEVEL WITHIN THE AREA OF A CIRCLE HAVING A RADIUS OF 2.5
NAUTICAL MILES WHOSE CENTRE IS AT 513219N 0000059W. EXCEPT AIRCRAFT
MAKING AN APPROACH TO OR DEPARTING FROM, LONDON CITY AIRPORT OR
LONDON HEATHROW AIRPORT WHILST UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE LONDON
TERMINAL CONTROL CENTRE AT SWANWICK OR FLYING ON HELICOPTER ROUTE H4
WHILST UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE LONDON TERMINAL CONTROL CENTRE AT
SWANWICK OR FLYING ABOVE THE RIVER THAMES EITHER EASTBOUND FROM THE
END OF HELICOPTER ROUTE H4 WHILST WITHIN THAT PART OF THE RESTRICTED
AREA COMMENCING AT BLACKWALL REACH AND ENDING AT BUGSBYS REACH, OR
WESTBOUND TO JOIN HELICOPTER ROUTE H4 WHILST WITHIN THAT PART OF THE
RESTRICTED AREA COMMENCING AT BUGSBYS REACH AND ENDING AT BLACKWALL
REACH WHILST, IN EITHER CASE, UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE LONDON
TERMINAL CONTROL CENTRE AT SWANWICK OR LONDON CITY AIRPORT AIR
TRAFFIC CONTROL OR OPERATED BY THE METROPOLITAN POLICE SERVICE OR
OPERATED BY THE HELICOPTER EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES OR FLYING IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF, NATIONAL
OLYMPIC COORDINATION CENTRE, WHO MAY BE CONTACTED ON TELEPHONE
NUMBER 020 7230 2265 OR 07768 357387 OR THE SENIOR OPERATIONS
MANAGER, LONDON 2012 CEREMONIES WHO MAY BE CONTACTED ON TELEPHONE
NUMBER 07900 497093. AUS 12-06-0786/AS6.
LOWER: SFC
UPPER: 2500FT AMSL
B) FROM: 12/06/19 08:00C) TO: 12/07/13 22:59
E) STRATFORD RESTRICTION OF FLYING REGULATIONS.
RESTRICTED AIRSPACE(TEMPORARY) HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED UNDER ARTICLE
161 OF THE ANO 2009. NO AIRCRAFT IS TO FLY BELOW 2500 FEET ABOVE
MEAN SEA LEVEL WITHIN THE AREA OF A CIRCLE HAVING A RADIUS OF 2.5
NAUTICAL MILES WHOSE CENTRE IS AT 513219N 0000059W. EXCEPT AIRCRAFT
MAKING AN APPROACH TO OR DEPARTING FROM, LONDON CITY AIRPORT OR
LONDON HEATHROW AIRPORT WHILST UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE LONDON
TERMINAL CONTROL CENTRE AT SWANWICK OR FLYING ON HELICOPTER ROUTE H4
WHILST UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE LONDON TERMINAL CONTROL CENTRE AT
SWANWICK OR FLYING ABOVE THE RIVER THAMES EITHER EASTBOUND FROM THE
END OF HELICOPTER ROUTE H4 WHILST WITHIN THAT PART OF THE RESTRICTED
AREA COMMENCING AT BLACKWALL REACH AND ENDING AT BUGSBYS REACH, OR
WESTBOUND TO JOIN HELICOPTER ROUTE H4 WHILST WITHIN THAT PART OF THE
RESTRICTED AREA COMMENCING AT BUGSBYS REACH AND ENDING AT BLACKWALL
REACH WHILST, IN EITHER CASE, UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE LONDON
TERMINAL CONTROL CENTRE AT SWANWICK OR LONDON CITY AIRPORT AIR
TRAFFIC CONTROL OR OPERATED BY THE METROPOLITAN POLICE SERVICE OR
OPERATED BY THE HELICOPTER EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES OR FLYING IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF, NATIONAL
OLYMPIC COORDINATION CENTRE, WHO MAY BE CONTACTED ON TELEPHONE
NUMBER 020 7230 2265 OR 07768 357387 OR THE SENIOR OPERATIONS
MANAGER, LONDON 2012 CEREMONIES WHO MAY BE CONTACTED ON TELEPHONE
NUMBER 07900 497093. AUS 12-06-0786/AS6.
LOWER: SFC
UPPER: 2500FT AMSL
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So London Sights tour traffic is not affected (H4 is available on request) but a Lea Valley crossing of London City Airport (N/S through the London zone) is prohibited? If so, then that is quite a bit of a detour around the East side of the zone.
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FWF;
'Quite a bit of a detour' .... in what?
...that is quite a bit of a detour around the East side of the zone.
NO AIRCRAFT IS TO FLY BELOW 2500 FEET ABOVE
MEAN SEA LEVEL WITHIN THE AREA OF A CIRCLE HAVING A RADIUS OF 2.5
NAUTICAL MILES WHOSE CENTRE IS AT 513219N 0000059W. EXCEPT...etc
MEAN SEA LEVEL WITHIN THE AREA OF A CIRCLE HAVING A RADIUS OF 2.5
NAUTICAL MILES WHOSE CENTRE IS AT 513219N 0000059W. EXCEPT...etc
'Quite a bit of a detour' .... in what?
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Single engined heli. lea Valley crossing avoids the need to detour east of the zone. The entry point for the Lea Valley crossing from the Thames is......... Olympic Site.
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Single engined heli.
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In any case, City tower often only give clearances for "not above 1000ft". With the height of the buildings and the "helter skelter" (300ft), you'd be hard pressed to comply with the 1000ft rule along the Lea Valley route.
Except at night, of course, when you could be SVFR.
Except at night, of course, when you could be SVFR.
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Sid - you can see the point John's making. Difference in a twin is that you can join direct Ally Pally to Vauxhaul bridge if you want a quick in/out, routing in/out from the north in a single was just about doable up the Lee valley, but no more. Fwiw John - not too much of a detour to route thames barrier, LCY overhead, becton, north circular to M11J4. There are clear areas but keep your eyes on the power lines... Certainly shorter than routing far east out of the zone
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Airspace Safety just tweeted that it has been lifted - wonder if the rationale just didn't stand up to scrutiny.
Unfortunately we'll likely never know what happened.
Unfortunately we'll likely never know what happened.
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I have never accepted that routing - not myself comfortable of my skills to put it down safely in the (unlikely) event of donky stop. I guess that's down to experience, of which I am (as yet) rather short. So when offered, I have opted for the coward's option; turned this down and gone East.
One day I will be better at this driving thing and can follow you.
I have never accepted that routing - not myself comfortable of my skills to put it down safely in the (unlikely) event of donky stop. I guess that's down to experience, of which I am (as yet) rather short. So when offered, I have opted for the coward's option; turned this down and gone East.
One day I will be better at this driving thing and can follow you.
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John,
That is my understanding: that the Olympics people will use "health & safety" as the justification, as the MPS have told the CAA there is no security issue at the moment.
As you suggest, the H&S argument is pretty self-evidently nonsense. The real reason is much more likely to be along the lines you suggest. Which is pretty despicable but also fairly typical of the way that the London Olympics people are steam-rollering everything to their whim.
Roll-on normality.
That is my understanding: that the Olympics people will use "health & safety" as the justification, as the MPS have told the CAA there is no security issue at the moment.
As you suggest, the H&S argument is pretty self-evidently nonsense. The real reason is much more likely to be along the lines you suggest. Which is pretty despicable but also fairly typical of the way that the London Olympics people are steam-rollering everything to their whim.
Roll-on normality.
If it comes back my bet is "Health and safety".
Sounds more like to prevent unauthorised photographs.
Sounds more like to prevent unauthorised photographs.
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I saw a squirrel with Cineflex (or equivalent) filming up there yesterday evening, 2130 local. Stunning light, shooting over the Olympic Park, Hackney, Limehouse, Canary Wharf etc... whether for the opening ceremony or not i'd like to see it, it must look great
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