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Bell has already flown a unmanned 407 ( seen it personally), drones are already flying in the NAS (although limited). History shows that the military takes the lead on many such matters. The military already conducts joint operations with manned and unmanned, ask Bin Laden how well that works out! The president has mandated the the FAA institute procedures to allow full access for drones to the NAS. so here I sit on my distant planet, but you are blind to the facts...If you continue to take such an attitude, I suggest the next time you fly....USE THE FORCE LUKE!!!
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I know there are many technical and safety of flight issues, and not to mention legal privacy issues, but the US government is moving forward in trying to sort out all this. Many of these drones that currently are at war will be returning soon. There is limited restricted airspace, new aircrews must be trained, current aircrews must retain current. I know some will say, why not use simulator. Well that will work to some extent, but part of the training is called combined arms training. This is when all troops are brought together, tanks, infantry, aviation, and supporting venues. The problem is, a good portion of military ground maneuver areas are not covered by by restricted airspace. Currently drones are regulated to a very small sector and when the ground scenario moves out of that from under that small coverage area, These drones are of NO more use in this training venues as current rules dictate. But read on in this article, the civilian applications are much more then what is listed. Visionaries will come up with even more, some good not not so good like delivering Tacos! The FAA is moving forward as mandated to try and crack this nut. The FAA has until Sept. 30, 2015, to lay out the rules regarding drones, that's just over 3 years, and the clock is ticking.
Drones: Protecting American soil or invasion of privacy?
By Keisha Courtney, KBAK - KBFX - Eyewitness News - BakersfieldNow.com Published: May 21, 2012 at 5:55 PM PDT
BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (KBAK/KBFX) — They're used by our military servicemen and women overseas to keep on eye on terrorists and to keep them out of harm's way when on the front lines. Soldiers are able to send unmanned aerial vehicles, or drones, into the air to see exactly what they are facing first without putting themselves in danger.
The technology will soon be used domestically, and it raises questions regarding privacy.
In February, Congress mandated the Federal Aviation Administration to open airspace to drones, something that has never been done before.
"These systems are carried by men in the backpack or in their vehicle so when they encounter a situation that is on the other side of that hill, they can quickly pull them out of their backpack. They can assemble it and in a matter of moments they can get live video of what is going on ahead of them," Aerovironment voce president of communications Steve Gitlin said. His company is responsible for 85 percent of the drones currently used by the U.S. military
But in a few short years, these vehicles may be able to be seen from your backyard. In February, President Obama signed the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012. It mandates that the Federal Aviation Administration administer a program that integrates drones into the national airspace system. That means the drones can be used for a variety of reasons including: crisis situations, surveillance on U.S. borders, and use by farmers to monitor crops.
"We've gotten a lot of inquires from police, fire departments and even motion picture companies. We've even got inquiries for organizations who want to use these systems to monitor rare wildlife in Africa and keep an eye out for poachers," Gitlin said.
But law enforcement agencies nationwide have other plans for the technology.
"Let's say a toddler gets lost in a city park. In that type of a situation if you are in an urban area, you want to get eyes on target as soon as possible and find that child. If one of those first responders were to show up at the park with one of those cube systems in their car, they could quickly put this up in the air and get a broad view of that entire area and try to find that child as soon as possible," Gitlin said.
The ones that will be used for domestic use could be smaller than the ones used overseas. But they still do the same job. The units take off like a helicopter and can hover in a fixed position or follow a target. The drones are so quiet that they could hover above a person without them even knowing it. That is one of the reasons why bringing drones to American soil is raising some eyebrows.
"The legal framework that says what you can and can't do overhead is not sufficiently protective in a world where we have a lot of UAVs," non-resident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and UCLA Professor of Electrical Engineering John Villasenor said.
For 10 years, Villasenor has been researching UAVs and the policy questions related to using them. Although he understands the wider use of drones in the U.S., he says there are several questions that still have to be answered before they make their way onto American soil.
However, if the past is any indication of the future, those issues have to be dealt with quickly. Two Supreme Court cases in 1986 and 1989 addressed law enforcement's use of manned aircrafts to perform surveillance of a suspect's property.
"(In both cases), the court held in essence that observations made from what they call 'public navigable airspace' were not something that required a warrant and were not excluded by the Fourth Amendment. If you fast forward to a world where UAVs may be plentiful and cheap, there is a legitimate question if that will be protected," Villasenor said.
However, before drones will be flying overhead the FAA has a long way to go to establish the laws regarding drones including: the sizes allowed to fly, how high and how far they can fly, and of course, who is allowed to fly them.
"Most people will use UAVs in an extremely responsible manner, but there are always the small percentage that will do so in a less responsible manner. It is those cases that will give rise to some privacy concerns," Villasenor said.
Six test sites for domestic drones are currently being decided on by the FAA. According to the agency, use of these sites will assist in the effort to safely and efficiently integrate the systems into the national airspace.
"The UAV industry is creating jobs and new companies. A technologically cutting edge country like the U.S. needs to be in the game. I think it is great that we are moving forward. We just need to address some of the concerns as well," Villasenor said.
The FAA has until Sept. 30, 2015, to lay out the rules regarding drones.
"Our expectation is that the same rules that apply to helicopters and fixed wing aircrafts are going to apply to unmanned aircraft systems. The professional organizations that are going to be using these are going to have to comply to those rules and regulations," Gitlin said.
Eyewitness News asked local law enforcement about the use of these systems in the future. Bakersfield police say it has kept an eye on the drones as they become more common and they present an interesting low-cost alternative to flying helicopters, but there are limitations and concern.
BPD says it will continue evaluating the systems but it isn't something they are seriously considering purchasing in the near future. As for the sheriff's department, they haven't made any plans to purchase the systems.
Drones: Protecting American soil or invasion of privacy?
By Keisha Courtney, KBAK - KBFX - Eyewitness News - BakersfieldNow.com Published: May 21, 2012 at 5:55 PM PDT
BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (KBAK/KBFX) — They're used by our military servicemen and women overseas to keep on eye on terrorists and to keep them out of harm's way when on the front lines. Soldiers are able to send unmanned aerial vehicles, or drones, into the air to see exactly what they are facing first without putting themselves in danger.
The technology will soon be used domestically, and it raises questions regarding privacy.
In February, Congress mandated the Federal Aviation Administration to open airspace to drones, something that has never been done before.
"These systems are carried by men in the backpack or in their vehicle so when they encounter a situation that is on the other side of that hill, they can quickly pull them out of their backpack. They can assemble it and in a matter of moments they can get live video of what is going on ahead of them," Aerovironment voce president of communications Steve Gitlin said. His company is responsible for 85 percent of the drones currently used by the U.S. military
But in a few short years, these vehicles may be able to be seen from your backyard. In February, President Obama signed the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012. It mandates that the Federal Aviation Administration administer a program that integrates drones into the national airspace system. That means the drones can be used for a variety of reasons including: crisis situations, surveillance on U.S. borders, and use by farmers to monitor crops.
"We've gotten a lot of inquires from police, fire departments and even motion picture companies. We've even got inquiries for organizations who want to use these systems to monitor rare wildlife in Africa and keep an eye out for poachers," Gitlin said.
But law enforcement agencies nationwide have other plans for the technology.
"Let's say a toddler gets lost in a city park. In that type of a situation if you are in an urban area, you want to get eyes on target as soon as possible and find that child. If one of those first responders were to show up at the park with one of those cube systems in their car, they could quickly put this up in the air and get a broad view of that entire area and try to find that child as soon as possible," Gitlin said.
The ones that will be used for domestic use could be smaller than the ones used overseas. But they still do the same job. The units take off like a helicopter and can hover in a fixed position or follow a target. The drones are so quiet that they could hover above a person without them even knowing it. That is one of the reasons why bringing drones to American soil is raising some eyebrows.
"The legal framework that says what you can and can't do overhead is not sufficiently protective in a world where we have a lot of UAVs," non-resident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and UCLA Professor of Electrical Engineering John Villasenor said.
For 10 years, Villasenor has been researching UAVs and the policy questions related to using them. Although he understands the wider use of drones in the U.S., he says there are several questions that still have to be answered before they make their way onto American soil.
However, if the past is any indication of the future, those issues have to be dealt with quickly. Two Supreme Court cases in 1986 and 1989 addressed law enforcement's use of manned aircrafts to perform surveillance of a suspect's property.
"(In both cases), the court held in essence that observations made from what they call 'public navigable airspace' were not something that required a warrant and were not excluded by the Fourth Amendment. If you fast forward to a world where UAVs may be plentiful and cheap, there is a legitimate question if that will be protected," Villasenor said.
However, before drones will be flying overhead the FAA has a long way to go to establish the laws regarding drones including: the sizes allowed to fly, how high and how far they can fly, and of course, who is allowed to fly them.
"Most people will use UAVs in an extremely responsible manner, but there are always the small percentage that will do so in a less responsible manner. It is those cases that will give rise to some privacy concerns," Villasenor said.
Six test sites for domestic drones are currently being decided on by the FAA. According to the agency, use of these sites will assist in the effort to safely and efficiently integrate the systems into the national airspace.
"The UAV industry is creating jobs and new companies. A technologically cutting edge country like the U.S. needs to be in the game. I think it is great that we are moving forward. We just need to address some of the concerns as well," Villasenor said.
The FAA has until Sept. 30, 2015, to lay out the rules regarding drones.
"Our expectation is that the same rules that apply to helicopters and fixed wing aircrafts are going to apply to unmanned aircraft systems. The professional organizations that are going to be using these are going to have to comply to those rules and regulations," Gitlin said.
Eyewitness News asked local law enforcement about the use of these systems in the future. Bakersfield police say it has kept an eye on the drones as they become more common and they present an interesting low-cost alternative to flying helicopters, but there are limitations and concern.
BPD says it will continue evaluating the systems but it isn't something they are seriously considering purchasing in the near future. As for the sheriff's department, they haven't made any plans to purchase the systems.
