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Old 18th Oct 2011, 07:57
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So could this have been avoided by applying some collective during the flare, to stop any sink and therfore go into an HOGE? or is there a bit more to consider, ie heavy and a downwind flare?

I'm young and still wet behind the ears, but that looked very easy to get into and did happen pretty quickly. I get the feeling he was downwind and a bit heavy and flared, once TL had gone he sank, pulled a load of collective quickly to try to stop the sudden sink, and as previously said over pitched, RRPM decayed and no time to do much else but try and put it down as best he can.

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In the mil I used to teach bringing the a/c to a faststop with the RCDI not moving from 'level' (I know - you should be looking out!). When the stude was happy that he/she could "feel" that the a/c wasn't sinking at all and got used to the considerable application of collective as the engines compensated for the drag curve, then and only then did I teach them to transfer their references to 100% visual out of the window in future.

We also taught fast approaches to oil rigs for rappelling. This entailed leaving it till late for a fast stop BUT bringing the a/c UP to the platform from slightly below, just as the a/c stopped, to prevent any sink whatsoever.

In the police when flaring quickly to a hover for FLIR activities, always flare UP to the correct level - again to prevent any sink rate developing.

If you are learning on a new type, be sure to quickly assimilate the rate of application of lever that the aircraft drag curve requires whilst bringing the aircraft to a halt. Always remember where the wind is - ALWAYS.
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