Mid-Summer Madness
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This reminds me of an incident that happened to a former employer's aircraft.
The SOP was that the pilots could land at natural gas well sites in an R44, roll the throttle to idle, switch off the governor and leave the aircraft with engine and rotors turning.
One day, Joe Dynamic is at the last well of the day so he rolls off the throttle and jumps out forgetting to switch off the governor. Now in Frank's Finest the governor is set to 'catch' at around 80%, and on this aircraft the idle was a little unstable. Now Joe is busy at the well site and then he hears the unmistakeable sound of his aircraft making its way to flight idle!
By the time Joe gets to the aircraft, the collective has vibrated its way up and the whole helicopter is trying to make a bid for freedom. Luckily no-one got hurt and nothing got bent.
As you can imagine, the SOP changed to full shut down every time.
Then Joe is at a well site in winter, its minus 29C and its the last visit of the day as it will be dark in half an hour. Joe hits the starter button and the whole component parts company with the mounting flange.
You can't bump start an R44.
So Joe is faced with a night out in -55C. But wait, this well has a winter road access! 1 hour later Joe is safely aboard Buddy's truck as they speed back to camp for tea and medals.
I fly the Jet Ranger and I get out with the rotors turning and I stick my foot in the door to get some air into that thing. As ST said, everything is carefully risk assessed and fully justified.
The SOP was that the pilots could land at natural gas well sites in an R44, roll the throttle to idle, switch off the governor and leave the aircraft with engine and rotors turning.
One day, Joe Dynamic is at the last well of the day so he rolls off the throttle and jumps out forgetting to switch off the governor. Now in Frank's Finest the governor is set to 'catch' at around 80%, and on this aircraft the idle was a little unstable. Now Joe is busy at the well site and then he hears the unmistakeable sound of his aircraft making its way to flight idle!
By the time Joe gets to the aircraft, the collective has vibrated its way up and the whole helicopter is trying to make a bid for freedom. Luckily no-one got hurt and nothing got bent.
As you can imagine, the SOP changed to full shut down every time.
Then Joe is at a well site in winter, its minus 29C and its the last visit of the day as it will be dark in half an hour. Joe hits the starter button and the whole component parts company with the mounting flange.
You can't bump start an R44.
So Joe is faced with a night out in -55C. But wait, this well has a winter road access! 1 hour later Joe is safely aboard Buddy's truck as they speed back to camp for tea and medals.
I fly the Jet Ranger and I get out with the rotors turning and I stick my foot in the door to get some air into that thing. As ST said, everything is carefully risk assessed and fully justified.
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So Flaxon Flyer in reference to your comment “RR refuel is not an approved SOP for our unit". Why was your ship hot fuelled this afternoon,
RRR is not an SOP. Neither is hover deplaning / emplaning. That doesn't mean they are not an option at the pilot's discretion.
I stand corrected you’re the lazy arse pump hogger
Yes I am. But that's not an offence is it? Unlike leaving your aircraft running with no pilot at the controls.
not jack jack who’s just a snake in the grass tell tail.
Yes I agree. No one likes a tell tale. On that subject, any idea who EMailed the Charity on Friday to dob in the pilot for the hanging offence of pump-hogging?
FF
10th Jul 2011 18:23
So Flaxon Flyer in reference to your comment “RR refuel is not an approved SOP for our unit". Why was your ship hot fuelled this afternoon,
RRR is not an SOP. Neither is hover deplaning / emplaning. That doesn't mean they are not an option at the pilot's discretion.
I stand corrected you’re the lazy arse pump hogger
Yes I am. But that's not an offence is it? Unlike leaving your aircraft running with no pilot at the controls.
not jack jack who’s just a snake in the grass tell tail.
Yes I agree. No one likes a tell tale. On that subject, any idea who EMailed the Charity on Friday to dob in the pilot for the hanging offence of pump-hogging?
FF
10th Jul 2011 18:23
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Think I may have found the answer to JJ's concern about Bell 206 Mid-summer madness (below):
JJ: How does this 'airmanship' compare with that of the 206 driver you saw the other day?
Think I may have found the answer to JJ's concern about Bell 206 Mid-summer madness (below):
JJ: How does this 'airmanship' compare with that of the 206 driver you saw the other day?
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Re Email to employs, please correct me if I am wrong the email was marked for the attention of the pilot with the topic heading ”Please info your pilot” was opened by yourself It was polite and finished with the name, address, post code , lat , long, telephone number , mobile telephone number of the sender ?
If you need more assistance with working out who sent the email good help us all !!!!
I have to say I am very disappointed by the hole suggested incident your comments about not helping another pilot who was struggling due to your airmanship was the most disappointing part, also your 3 million pound ship parked out of sight of your crew? Where would one start with that one without what could have been left in it or thought to have been left in it anything could have happened (if a jet ranger that had PPR for fuel via the phone made calls on route could sneak up to it pretty much else could have) I have always admired the work you do and always held you all in the upmost! Given assistance with relay RT calls giving actual weather conditions and with fund raising nothing I am sure you give a dam about that but for what’s it worth you can count completely on my assistance if you were ever in need and I am sure of every other aviator that reads this !
Thought for the day.
Not everything is always has it first appears .Think about what you know for sure consider the information from others with care don’t let it become your own facts.
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Re Email to employs, please correct me if I am wrong the email was marked for the attention of the pilot with the topic heading ”Please info your pilot” was opened by yourself It was polite and finished with the name, address, post code , lat , long, telephone number , mobile telephone number of the sender ?
If you need more assistance with working out who sent the email good help us all !!!!
I have to say I am very disappointed by the hole suggested incident your comments about not helping another pilot who was struggling due to your airmanship was the most disappointing part, also your 3 million pound ship parked out of sight of your crew? Where would one start with that one without what could have been left in it or thought to have been left in it anything could have happened (if a jet ranger that had PPR for fuel via the phone made calls on route could sneak up to it pretty much else could have) I have always admired the work you do and always held you all in the upmost! Given assistance with relay RT calls giving actual weather conditions and with fund raising nothing I am sure you give a dam about that but for what’s it worth you can count completely on my assistance if you were ever in need and I am sure of every other aviator that reads this !
Thought for the day.
Not everything is always has it first appears .Think about what you know for sure consider the information from others with care don’t let it become your own facts.
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ek ek ek calm down calm down!
Multiflight gave GNAAS a small bowser to use to ease refuelling issues at Durham Tees Valley, Perhaps YAA could have a similar thing going at Bagby?
Phoenix - YAA crew may well have removed their drugs bag when they left the helicopter on the pumps as it might have needed restocking after the previous job.
Can't everyone just kiss and make-up?
Multiflight gave GNAAS a small bowser to use to ease refuelling issues at Durham Tees Valley, Perhaps YAA could have a similar thing going at Bagby?
Phoenix - YAA crew may well have removed their drugs bag when they left the helicopter on the pumps as it might have needed restocking after the previous job.
Can't everyone just kiss and make-up?
