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Old 29th Jun 2011, 21:11
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8 Flight AAC 109's

Ref post from c53204 on 01/06. Are we going to say any more about the ZE cabs? AMH were involved with them for some time so there must be some interesting stuff out there or should we leave them in peace now that they are retired. I have info on paint schemes and a couple of pictures if we are happy to further this one.
Does anyone have any info on G-HUEY which is the UH-1D that came back from the Falklands and was sponsored by the RIAT for a while. I remember it being with AMH for a while under some sort of maintenance deal.
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Old 30th Jun 2011, 11:47
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The Army 109s were regularly at Fairoaks. The first two, captured during the Falklands war, were immediately painted yellow/white like G-OAMH and G-HWBK to make them "look civil" to help the unit blend into the "real world" if you like.

The schemes were changed a few times, as were the colour location of the ZE41x serials they always wore (ZE410 through 413), often in a very similar colour to the background they were painted on, and sometimes in odd places like the nose cone, but still meeting some official (Geneva?) Convention that all aircraft must carry a serial. (contrary to what c53204 said earlier this thread). Here are some schemes they wore

ZE410 as captured, Argentine serial AE-334


ZE411 in AMH-look yellow scheme


ZE410 in a grey scheme


ZE411 as captured, Argentine serial AE-331


ZE411 in AMH-look yellow scheme


ZE411 in blue


ZE412 in white with two dark blue stripes (and reg in black on the dark blue)


ZE412 in white with blue/red stripes


ZE413 in white with two dark blue stripes (and reg in black on the dark blue)


ZE413 in white and black


and like it or not, they got replaced by four of these (all in this scheme)
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Old 30th Jun 2011, 12:21
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ZE cabs

nice to see such a good response to this already. All four aircraft ended up in individual paint schemes but in between these and the initial AMH scheme they all got painted white with two dark blue lines running end to end. Any pictures out there?
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Old 30th Jun 2011, 12:25
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I have a photo of one *somewhere* which would need scanning. I will go hunting this evening. Meantime the four are *thought* to be currently as follows

ZE410 @ Yeovilton, Cobham Hall storage facility
ZE411 @ MoAF, Middle Wallop - awaiting public display
ZE412 @ Arborfield
ZE413 @ Hereford (for local static display?)
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Old 30th Jun 2011, 12:35
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ZE411





ZE412

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Old 30th Jun 2011, 13:18
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Army Dauphins

Are the Army Dauphins owned by the MoD or are they (as with the RN FOST Dauphins) contracted?

What does the ZJ designation, shared with the FOST Dauphins, signify?

And finally, what sort of tasking are the Army Dauphins engaged in? The image seems to reveal FLIR and possibly a NightSun on the opposite side.


Navy Dauphins are contracted through civilian operators
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what sort of tasking are the Army Dauphins engaged in? The image seems to reveal FLIR and possibly a NightSun on the opposite side
Sorry, that sort of information is not likely to be revealed, but if I tell I will have to kill you afterwards.
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Old 1st Jul 2011, 12:17
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All those 8 Flight 109s _DID_ carry their serial

Check near the bottom of the hinged door below the red stripe and you will see ZE413 painted there in a near white colour on a white background, but it is visible....

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You'll find some pics of the ZE aircraft. I spent a few hours 'on board' ZE411 and 412

Demobbed - Out of Service British Military Aircraft
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ZE411 (perhaps) carrying out special ops for the Special Forces - (no further details)

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Old 15th May 2013, 11:20
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8 Flight AAC AS365N Dauphin II ZJ785 arriving at Wattisham on 2 May 2013 (Photo: Gary Stedman)

Assigned to the SAS.
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How many have they got now? I thought I counted 5.
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ZE 413 is on display at the DMS Lichfield and not Hereford. It is in a medical fit with blister doors fitted as it contains a stretcher in the cabin.

ZJ serials is the sequence of allocated serials and nothing special.
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Old 15th May 2013, 20:49
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Does 8 flight use a special call sign when they fly?
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Old 27th Aug 2013, 13:43
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I think there might be six now
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Old 27th Aug 2013, 16:41
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Sloanes had the maint contract for a while

I saw white / grey ZE177 (?) inside their new hangar over 10 years ago and even close up looks like any civvy machine bar the oomps and wee bumps on the fuselage lol

Single pilot operated IIRC when looked in the cockpit looked no different to say a police machine tbh. Didn't see in the back

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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 18:04
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As of 1 September 2013 8 Flight Army Air Corps was remustered as 658 Squadron Army Air Corps.
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I don't know what AMH is/was so G-HUEY probably wasn't involved with it at all.
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 04:47
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I don't know what AMH is/was so G-HUEY probably wasn't involved with it at all.
AMH is Alan Manns Helicopters. They were tasked with refurbishing the 2 captured A109's and getting them airworthy.
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