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Old 9th Nov 2010, 10:30
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strangely familiar new chinese helicopter

China's first domestic-made light civilian helicopter makes debut

Hm looks kinda like another helicopter , wish I could remember the name
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ECAS 470....dummy!!
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Looks like what comes out when those two make love:

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Not surprising since the first attempt a few years ago was identical to an AS-350. Wasn't Eurocopter livid with that "1st civil helicopter designed and built in China" back then?
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How could you imply that EADS had anything to do with this? All lies. This is a genuine design which leaves no questions unanswered. The chopper is a 灰鼠 or simply a "song shu"
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It's nothing like a Eurocopter.

It's a Eulocropter.
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I wonder about pricing and internationally acceptable certification?

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Oh, I see elsewhere it is priced '10-15% cheaper'.

Doesn't sound like much of a discount. I think they'd need some other compelling reasons to make a sale against EC.

Still, anything new is a bonus.

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helispeediii

hope the welding is better than my chinese monkey bike who eng/trans are they using anyone know helispeed iii
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Eivissa- Would that be an outstanding load of brightly-coloured Bo***cks?

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but wait - there's more

The aircraft was equipped with a fuel-efficient engine,
I laugh
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Well, don't stop there. It has "highly integrated avionics" too.
Does that mean the radios are actually fitted into the panel, not wired up and just left lying on the floor like in every other helicopter?

Or perhaps they mean that the avionics are integtated amongst themselves, so all the pax can hear eachother on the intercom, and maybe navaid idents can even be switched in too! Maybe that's it!

Gosh!
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It could mean that you can set the radio frequencies from the database on the EFIS etc.
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Old 11th Nov 2010, 02:30
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I wonder if it comes standard with external handholds for the people riding on the outside when all the seats are full?!?!
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i agree, but...

Okay, lets all try to draw a helicopter that doesn't look like any other helicopter in any way. Oh, it actually has to look like something that passes W and B muster and is functional. You know, the main rotor can't be mounted on the tail and the tail rotor in the middle somewhere. Engine...? Enhaust...? Cockpit behind the passenger seats? My point is its a pretty basic and strict design. Theres not a great amount of leeway when designing a helo for any given weight category. I don't have the extraordinary skill to design a completely new looking helicopter that doesn't look like any other but am looking forward to all the new ideas. Cheers
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AVIC produces the airframes of the EC175, so they work together with Eurocopter. So no surprise, that this machine looks like a member of the EC family?

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Credit where its due!

I struggle to think of a single country which has an emerging or even developed helicopter manufacturing industry and who are not working with Eurocopter!

As much as I would love to have seen one or more of our home grown companies take this initiative - they never did and I believe it is to our loss.

Eurocopters penetration of the global market over the past 20 years is by any measure - impressive.

This latest project, like so many others, bears all the EC hallmarks and which is hardly surprising but ... keep up the humor, its fun to read!

HM
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Shape is one thing ( It is hard to tell at BMW from a Ford now ) , the Starflex rotor head is certainly something that they would not have produced without a lot of tech info from EC. Remember AW owe their starts to US manufacturers and they are now showing their parents a thing or two. I have seen the standard of some chinese aircraft parts and early examples were dire but they learn fast and are prepared to use all resources to achieve success.
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Is the power train local or imported?

Engine? P&W or Turbomeca? Or a 'copy'.
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Engine - Honeywell LTS101-700D-2. Drive train including MR and TR - all AS350B2.
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Old 11th Nov 2010, 22:19
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Question AW starts with US help?

widgeon said:
Remember AW owe their starts to US manufacturers and they are now showing their parents a thing or two.
Hold on.. both Augusta AND Westland were started with the help of US manufacturers..?
I seriously need help with history, because I did not know that..

(this is a serious post..)
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