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cladosporangium - I do not think it is a good idea for me to name the offenders here. its not the right time for that and besides, there are plenty of service providers in the industry know precisely who it is because they havent been paid for a long time as well. If you PM however, that is a different matter.
cattletruck - I do know where the money is coming from but it is a little more complicated than that. What i would like to know is where the money has gone to. That is the key question here. Thanks for your advice etc, I do not think I will be so badly off and have more than one iron to poke the fire with so hopefully I will be able to look back on this as a bit of 'industry experience'.
cattletruck - I do know where the money is coming from but it is a little more complicated than that. What i would like to know is where the money has gone to. That is the key question here. Thanks for your advice etc, I do not think I will be so badly off and have more than one iron to poke the fire with so hopefully I will be able to look back on this as a bit of 'industry experience'.
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I have not heard of a company over this way closing down so they must have been paid or could it be loyalty
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ExMAGE nope - no pay. No communication by any form that is from my perspective, the others in the company might have a different set of circumstances. Ive not spoken to anyone there for a while so am now out of the loop.
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] The last I heard which was middle of last week, 2 people already gone, 2 more preparing to go, and 3 or 4 more are actively seeking legal advice /action against the company including me. This is a mix of aircrew/engineers so the ill feeling is evenly spread. I think the only reason the staff have not all walked is cause they do have some loyalty to the past owners and they are hoping this is just a bad patch. But it isnt at all, the three untrustworthy musketeers have done it again.
Gruntfutock - [I like that handle
] The last I heard which was middle of last week, 2 people already gone, 2 more preparing to go, and 3 or 4 more are actively seeking legal advice /action against the company including me. This is a mix of aircrew/engineers so the ill feeling is evenly spread. I think the only reason the staff have not all walked is cause they do have some loyalty to the past owners and they are hoping this is just a bad patch. But it isnt at all, the three untrustworthy musketeers have done it again.
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The end is nigh
If you remember how to write a cv then I would get writing and if you do not know then you will be looking for "advise please" but I would just copy someone else's and adjust accordingly.
The three muskateers have fingers in many pies so be careful you do not get bitten again. The long arm of the law may help but personally where these people are concern I prefer vigilante treatment. A man has to do what a man has to do!
Unfortunately their assets are protected and again the little honest working folk lose out.
Good luck in your endeavours
The three muskateers have fingers in many pies so be careful you do not get bitten again. The long arm of the law may help but personally where these people are concern I prefer vigilante treatment. A man has to do what a man has to do!
Unfortunately their assets are protected and again the little honest working folk lose out.
Good luck in your endeavours
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clads. - Thanks for the sentiment and warning. Companies house and credit reference companies provide a wealth of information for a relatively low price. The result of that investment shows a very clear picture of what is going on.
I agree with your sentiments entirely but unfortunately what I had in mind would almost certainly place me in the scrubs!! They are not worth the effort any more, in the end they will do unto themselves as they have done unto others - live by the sword etc.
I agree with your sentiments entirely but unfortunately what I had in mind would almost certainly place me in the scrubs!! They are not worth the effort any more, in the end they will do unto themselves as they have done unto others - live by the sword etc.
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Its not you that should got to the Scrubs but the people who are resonsible for messing up families livelyhoods with such impunity. My advice to them would be get out while you still can and learn that you cann't trust everyone, and some alot less than others.
Its not you that should got to the Scrubs but the people who are resonsible for messing up families livelyhoods with such impunity. My advice to them would be get out while you still can and learn that you cann't trust everyone, and some alot less than others.
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I bet the owners won't put this information into an email and "send to all" like the last one.
996 - Have you still not been paid?
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996 - Have you still not been paid?
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Do they live to breathe another day?
Everything seems to have gone quiet. Did everyone get paid in the end? Then I suppose it is expected to all start again when the next payments are due.
I may not be the brightest but you would have to be more than a bit dim not to know who we are talking about here. The crews go out and about during the week and incur "expenses". Are these being paid? That would really add insult to injury if you not only did not get paid your salary but to have to pay your own expenses and not have them paid!!!
Look on the bright side 966 if you do something illegal and end up in prison at least there you have rights and get paid for the work you do!
I may not be the brightest but you would have to be more than a bit dim not to know who we are talking about here. The crews go out and about during the week and incur "expenses". Are these being paid? That would really add insult to injury if you not only did not get paid your salary but to have to pay your own expenses and not have them paid!!!
Look on the bright side 966 if you do something illegal and end up in prison at least there you have rights and get paid for the work you do!
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Silence is golden???
Maybe they are quiet as everyone has been paid and they are all busy counting their gold! After all everyone knows how well paid pilots are. Or are they busy talking to solicitors or creditors?
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ExMAGE - as far as I am aware nobody got paid what they were legally entitled to. We were all stolen from/defrauded call it what you will. Some were paid 4 weeks money and some a lot less than that. I have no real way of knowing the precise detail as all I am aware of is my case and those I have asked.
clado-whateveritisicannotspellit - well that i the question isnt it? Come next month will we all be back here again or will they pay up? Who knows.
wichything, this is across the whole spectrum of employees not just pilots. Even the ops staff are in the same boat. Pilots might be able to last out a few weeks delay but there are a lot of people who cant.
QM yeh well I dont think it strange, there are a lot of people in the group who probably dont normally come here or just lurk. Might not want to put their heads over the parapet without a helmet. Speaking of which, are you sure they aint in here as well?
clado-whateveritisicannotspellit - well that i the question isnt it? Come next month will we all be back here again or will they pay up? Who knows.
wichything, this is across the whole spectrum of employees not just pilots. Even the ops staff are in the same boat. Pilots might be able to last out a few weeks delay but there are a lot of people who cant.
QM yeh well I dont think it strange, there are a lot of people in the group who probably dont normally come here or just lurk. Might not want to put their heads over the parapet without a helmet. Speaking of which, are you sure they aint in here as well?
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Seems they have got a life line from some where but just how long is it.
WNW - I would guess the only ones not to be affected were those that created the problem, I think this may have spread throughout the group.
QM - Odd that isn't it.
It will be interesting to see what happens if external agencies start taking an interest!
Bets on whether more "advice" will be required in a couple of weeks
WNW - I would guess the only ones not to be affected were those that created the problem, I think this may have spread throughout the group.
QM - Odd that isn't it.
It will be interesting to see what happens if external agencies start taking an interest!
Bets on whether more "advice" will be required in a couple of weeks
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Hi there Qualityman I am one of the "newbies" and I came onto the site to see if the rumours were true and how things would affect me personally. I hate not being paid when payment is due and I despise the people that are doing this. When is the law going to start protecting the "little" man? I am not giving this company any more credit as I will probably not be paid what I am already owed. If I could persuade one of the pilots to purloin one of the jet rangers until all monies owed were paid I would. I even have a near perfect hiding place, a little pad off the beaten track, but are the pipeline helicopters fitted with trackers? It is probably better that I do not know a lot about it because like 996 I do not want to end up in prison - that priveledge should be saved for the "three muskateers" or should we say "musk rats" but that would be an insult to the wildlife or is it vermin?
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Just done a bit of research on pprune and it seem that the three bush pigs have never managed to run a successful company since day 1. Nothing but collapse and failure. Guess we now know where its all going to end then eh? 
Of course there might be the possibility that when they cross the road at night and use the tried method of standing still in between the lights so the vehicle passes safely over them that one day it will be a Robin Reliant. Squish.......
Road-kill.
Of course there might be the possibility that when they cross the road at night and use the tried method of standing still in between the lights so the vehicle passes safely over them that one day it will be a Robin Reliant. Squish.......Road-kill.
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I've heard from some crews that accounts are closed at some airfields and it is by Credit Card only for fuel and they have to pay landing fees now. Like the rest of us.
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Who knows only the beenies, but it show a lack of confidence and trust in that Group at this moment. Isn't the Air Ambulance over there a charity I hope there is someone looking after that interest