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Old 17th Dec 2010, 17:52
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Rumor has it that the Eurocopter built EC225 sim failed qualification. Anyone hear the details?
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Old 22nd Dec 2010, 15:23
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No, but CAE have sold their L2 sim to CAE.
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Old 22nd Dec 2010, 18:16
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No, but CAE have sold their L2 sim to CAE.
Come again?
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Old 22nd Dec 2010, 19:15
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Sorry, CHC sold that sim, 3 others and a good part of their training provision to CAE.
CAE to acquire CHC Helicopter's training operations | Shephard Group
Does TUPE apply in the UK?
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Old 22nd Dec 2010, 22:20
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"Safety is CHC's number one priority and world-class training is the cornerstone of safe operations," said William Amelio, President and Chief Executive Officer of CHC Helicopter... The ability to scale training to meet demand is the way of the future for the helicopter industry."
Translation:

We beancounters care so little about safety that we will outsource a key part of safety so we can save the cost of maintaining the infrastructure when we lose business.

Or am I being uncharitable?

Who or what are TUPE?
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Old 22nd Dec 2010, 23:02
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Transfer of Undertakings (Protection of Employment) Regulations

Basically, legislation to ensure that staff who have to move from CHC to CAE don't end up with worse terms and conditions of employment.

Might be a little bit complicated because I think some of the guys in Aberdeen are employed by the Norwegian FTO rather than by CHC Scotia.
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 23:52
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Thanks for that.

Are CAE going to take on the FTO approvals too?
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Old 25th Dec 2010, 14:40
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I do not think it is necessarily such a bad move, and certainly would not call it a compromise to safety. CHC have taken a sensible move to outsource simulator training to a company that specialise in this field and have a huge amount of experience doing so, in both military and civilian fields. At present much of the sim training is done via Flight Safety or the Bristow sims anyway, which are not perfect at all either, so where is the big difference. CHC's primary aim is to get helicopters flying, keeping the customer happy, and of course making money somewhere. Simualtors are not cheap, and resource intensive to operate and maintain in the long run. If this os not your core business then why not let another company take care of it for you. It frees up more resources n CHC and funds, to concentrate on the core business of getting aircraft in the air and supporting the contracts in the best way. This is not a new idea. Most military air forces have been doing ot for some time. The fact remains that the Training Centre in Stavanger needed to be upgraded, a the sims were outdated and it would take a heck of a lot of money to do so, with a lot of justification to investors, inevitably resulting in compromise along the way. CAE will very likely be able to provide a good product and I am sure they will provide top quality training, and it will allow CHC to use a brand new training centre in Stavanger again, which will be a positive step.
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Old 25th Dec 2010, 17:13
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can a non driver get a shot??
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Old 26th Dec 2010, 09:51
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HB

Surely flying standards are core business and if CHC have let sims get out dated then it hardly reinforces the idea that commitment to training has been strong previously.

In addition, CHC seem happy to pursue other people's maintenance through Heli-One which is not part of the 'core' you describe.
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 03:40
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Troy,
Why the substantial edit removing the alleged explanation for your rumour?
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The company will in 2012 establish an advanced flight simulator for the Sikorsky S-92 helicopters at the airport. The simulator that costs 400 to 500 million kroner will be one of very few S-92 simulators in operation worldwide, the Aftenbladet enlightened under the Sola Conference on Aviation.

It's Statoil, which demands that Norway should establish Bristow training center with a simulator at Sola. Something similar has happened in the past when the contract award by the Norwegian continental shelf flights.

The reason for it all is that the Norwegian state-owned oil company recently signed a contract with Bristow Norway for flights on the Norwegian continental shelf for two billion. The creation of the simulator is likely to lead to increased demand from other S-92 operators from around the globe.
Perhaps it's been moving to Norway?
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 10:07
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Can't think why. I would rather a couple of nights in Stavanger than the Thistle.
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 20:18
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Does that mean we have some airborne managers somewhere?
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Old 3rd Jan 2011, 18:19
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Originally Posted by Epiphany
I would rather a couple of nights in Stavanger than the Thistle.
But at least we can afford to eat & drink in the Thistle, not so on the other side of the North Sea!
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Breakfast is free and I'm sure the best paid pilots on the UK North Sea could afford the odd beer CCC.
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Would you want to eat and drink in the Thistle?
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Old 4th Jan 2011, 14:25
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Originally Posted by Epiphany
Breakfast is free
Not if your briefing is at 07:00hrs at the weekend. Done that twice, first time room service failed to appear so had to do 2 hours of night decks in the vomit comet with no food, and the 2nd time was charged £5:00 for the room service continental breakfast.
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Would you want to eat and drink in the Thistle?
Sometimes there is little other option if you have no transport, or no nominated driver.
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Old 4th Jan 2011, 16:09
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Not if your briefing is at 07:00hrs at the weekend.
By 'eck that's a tough schedule! Makes me feel a bit embarrassed that I complained to FSI about our 00:00-02:00 followed by 03:00-05:00 slots we had for most of 2009!
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Old 4th Jan 2011, 17:45
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our 00:00-02:00 followed by 03:00-05:00 slots we had for most of 2009!
At least you could get breakfast in the Thistle afterwards...
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