Please god look at my other log book......?
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Please god look at my other log book......?
Hi,
Couldnt find the answer to this (might be my skills on a PC):
If I have low hours on a chopper but hold a ATPL (H)(Frozen) IR(H) but have a lot on fixed wing types and hold ATPL A Frozen etc do they, as in the employers, look at total time over both fixed and rotary or just ignore my fixed wing.
Cheers
Couldnt find the answer to this (might be my skills on a PC):
If I have low hours on a chopper but hold a ATPL (H)(Frozen) IR(H) but have a lot on fixed wing types and hold ATPL A Frozen etc do they, as in the employers, look at total time over both fixed and rotary or just ignore my fixed wing.
Cheers
Hovering AND talking
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
So, in other words, you mean CPL/IR(A) and CPL/IR(H), both with low hours? I doubt the fixed wing time would count for much unless the hours are in the thousands and it's a full ATPL(A).
....and it's not a chopper please.
Cheers
Whirls
....and it's not a chopper please.
Cheers
Whirls
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If you have a frozen ATPL/A IR then I seriously doubt you have a lot of time either fixed or rotary. A lot of time is 5000 hours plus. If you have a frozen ATPL/A in EASA land then you probably have less than 1400 hours which is sadly not a lot in the current climate. Also unless you want to instruct then few hours are as bad as none, most employers will struggle to insure a low hour helicopter (thank you Whirls) pilot on a single pilot operation.
I fly FW and rotary as do two other pilots here, we don't count the hours in either direction because the jobs are so fundamentally different. You either have the time and qualifications in each area or you don't.
I fly FW and rotary as do two other pilots here, we don't count the hours in either direction because the jobs are so fundamentally different. You either have the time and qualifications in each area or you don't.
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"I seriously doubt you have a lot of time either fixed or rotary"
Your serious doubts may be correct, I used the word 'lot' as a comparison of one against the other not as any flexing of muscles but as in 100 vs 1000. I am aware that "a lot of hours" in general terms would be in the thousands but I am looking for an initial job and want to focus my efforts in the right direction (which includes financially) and fancied I might get some sound advice on what counts as relevent in the HELICOPTER industry.
PS- I like the word chopper, I will now go up the wooden hill and see if my mrs likes that terminology too.
Your serious doubts may be correct, I used the word 'lot' as a comparison of one against the other not as any flexing of muscles but as in 100 vs 1000. I am aware that "a lot of hours" in general terms would be in the thousands but I am looking for an initial job and want to focus my efforts in the right direction (which includes financially) and fancied I might get some sound advice on what counts as relevent in the HELICOPTER industry.
PS- I like the word chopper, I will now go up the wooden hill and see if my mrs likes that terminology too.
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choppers
They used to be called 'choppers' all the time 20 years ago.
Some of us may even recall the car bumper sticker which read
'My chopper is insured for half a Million'.
An individuals Total time is rightly one's Rotary time AND Fixed wing time. Usually most operators understand the advantage of having more of a varied general aviation experience but each company has an Ops Manual to guide it.
This is written to suit its own individual needs often quoting minimum hours of experience required etc.
Some of us may even recall the car bumper sticker which read
'My chopper is insured for half a Million'.
An individuals Total time is rightly one's Rotary time AND Fixed wing time. Usually most operators understand the advantage of having more of a varied general aviation experience but each company has an Ops Manual to guide it.
This is written to suit its own individual needs often quoting minimum hours of experience required etc.
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From: Spain
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Once you can get the chopper hours up to a realistic minimum, the 'plane' experience will become more of an influencing factor.
As gulliBell said, your still stuck with low chopper time and little will overcome that except more chopper hours. But Good luck, you got the thousand in planes and you'll get there in eggbeaters as well...
170'
As gulliBell said, your still stuck with low chopper time and little will overcome that except more chopper hours. But Good luck, you got the thousand in planes and you'll get there in eggbeaters as well...
170'
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What is wrong with calling hektopleters 'choppers'? Some of you try hard would be if you could be's need to get a life. Pathetic.
Choppers. Helos. Helicopters. Rererangi hiri hiri's. Mix masta bilong jesus christ.Angry palm tree etc. etc
Choppers. Helos. Helicopters. Rererangi hiri hiri's. Mix masta bilong jesus christ.Angry palm tree etc. etc
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Seriously, I think the time when a crossover might be relevant is when you have very high instrument time in fixed wing and you are looking for a rotary job which requires a lot of instrument flying. Of course the technique and power settings are all different but if there is any thread of commonality, this has to be it.
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What is wrong with calling hektopleters 'choppers'? Some of you try hard would be if you could be's need to get a life. Pathetic.
....and it's not a chopper please .
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Good excuse for the Alan Partridge clip though
DBHelicopter
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Thank you for your comments....all taken on board and appreciated.
I am now off to the shop in my Rover 620i to buy the Alan Partridge box set.
Dan!!!!!!! Dan!!!!! DANNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am now off to the shop in my Rover 620i to buy the Alan Partridge box set.
Dan!!!!!!! Dan!!!!! DANNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: In a glass house
Biggest & Most Powerful 'Chopper'
Did we really ever use the word ‘chopper’ freely in the eastern hemisphere to describe a rotary wing aircraft? My problem with the word is that I can’t say it, in the aviation context, without breaking into a grin.
Twenty plus years ago I might have used the word as a ‘double-entendre’ to try and make the odd female heli pilot blush but there are so many of them now that it is no longer any fun AND I am supposed to be PC.
Had a T-shirt once with a slogan acknowledging that our organisation had just taken delivery of Bell 214’s which, as most of you know, was a mighty strong and powerful chopper of the Nineteen Seventies, even by American standards!
Twenty plus years ago I might have used the word as a ‘double-entendre’ to try and make the odd female heli pilot blush but there are so many of them now that it is no longer any fun AND I am supposed to be PC.
Had a T-shirt once with a slogan acknowledging that our organisation had just taken delivery of Bell 214’s which, as most of you know, was a mighty strong and powerful chopper of the Nineteen Seventies, even by American standards!
