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Old 5th Apr 2010, 12:09
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video clip...

The first lighthouse looked scarily like the Bishop rock (slung me arse off to that more times than I care to remember!!) followed by St Mary's airport.
The last light he was buzzing looked like the Lizard, but as we never used to service that one, I would happily stand corrected
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Old 5th Apr 2010, 16:12
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The last light he was buzzing looked like the Lizard, but as we never used to service that one, I would happily stand corrected
Looks more like Pendeen watch
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chopjock,

you might be right, but I don't remember Pendeen being that big, but on reflection I do remember the Lizard had a huge lighthouse and that certainly rules out my first obs.
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"No, on the way out.Destroyed on the 29th June 1995 during a positioning flight from Liskeard to Deauville. The helicopter suffered what was later believed to be a major mechanical failure within the engine gearbox assembly. The helicopter ditched in the sea off the Channel Island of Alderney and sank, fortunately the two crew members escaped without injury."

That wasn't G-SPEY
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That wasn't G-SPEY
Yeh I know. I was refering to the other 206 (G-BXHU) in the previous post (11) .
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Hi all - am publishing a book about Alderney aviation in August, and whilst researching my accidents section, I found that the AAIB investigation strangely stated that the controlled decent to ditching 'gave the commander time to remove his sunglasses'. Now there's a twist I wasn't expecting...
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Old 20th Jun 2010, 20:22
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G-BXHU I believe ...



Dont quite know why Special 25 refers to this as an 'infamous' landing. I mean isn't this the point of helicopters ... versatility! It seems to me like a great demonstration of the helicopter's ability.



In the Swedish Navy we would do the same thing using the same aircraft type (on a regular basis). Unfortunely now, with the 109E LUH (with it's wheeled undercarriage) we can't - but thats technology for you!
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Old 21st Jun 2010, 02:11
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I would think it is pretty infamous to the kids and non-aviation community who watched it!
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Dont quite know why Special 25 refers to this as an 'infamous' landing. I mean isn't this the point of helicopters ... versatility! It seems to me like a great demonstration of the helicopter's ability.
I was puzzled by that too.
Famous certainly, but there was nothing infamous about it.

Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me!
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Old 21st Jun 2010, 13:02
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Infamous is when you are more than famous - This man El Guapo is not just famous - he is infamous
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Old 21st Jun 2010, 21:04
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'Infamous'

Sorry - I used the wrong word !!! Don't get too deep into the word 'infamous' - I hadn't even remembered I'd put that in the title. I just thought it was a great landing, an impressive piece of tv, and something that you'd be very unlikely to see these days.

Interesting to see the Swedish Navy carrying out such operations but certainly not aware of that happening in the Royal Navy !!
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Your very 'Royal' navy doesn't have many helicopters capable of making a sub deck touchdown - I think your RN policy is to keep away from such operations.

Possibly the only thing available in your air fleet would be the SA341 (if you still have any) but then I'm sure your station or wing commander wouldn't approve of such ops. Your defence training school could try it out with the AS350 but it would probably be too dangerous!

In Sweden sub landing ops were used infrequently (but without criticism) for urgent ship to shore comms such as medevac, urgent supplies and solops.

Now we use the Agusta 109E LUH (which is what I fly). It is a great aircraft but ... not for landing on subs!
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Old 22nd Jun 2010, 16:39
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The 'Sverige Marinen' (Swedish Navy) has a long history of association between submarines and helicopters.



Boeing Vertol 44 (HKP 1) over the attack submarine HMS Sjöhästen (the Sea Horse) circa 1960.

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Old 26th Jun 2010, 23:02
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Cool Sub Lt Photo

...and "Black Dog" looked pretty smooth in that picture too JE!
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Old 28th Jun 2010, 07:11
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Old 28th Jun 2010, 09:51
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Bronx, no more info?

We see the guy with the hook, did he catch the mail bag first time, did he get knocked on the head with it or maybe did it even fall in the water?

Which helicopter was this, a Boeing 107 Sea Knight, a Kaman Seasprite ... a Sikorsky Seahawk ... !
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Old 28th Jun 2010, 09:54
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Your very 'Royal' navy doesn't have many helicopters capable of making a sub deck touchdown - I think your RN policy is to keep away from such operations.
YBB,

Most (all?) USN and RN helicopters are winch equipped, and transfers are routinely done to and from submarines via winch. There is no need to land on.

Which is probably why the issue of landing on a submarine is such a non issue for military ops, but unusual in relation to the Treasure Finder programme.
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Old 28th Jun 2010, 10:16
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Senior Pilot; I understand your comment. We do also have winches fitted to our 109s but .. and I don't know the reason why, only very few have them. Most do not!



And please ... what is a 'Hunt Ducker'?
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Old 28th Jun 2010, 10:54
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YBB:

In Sweden sub landing ops were used infrequently (but without criticism) for urgent ship to shore comms such as medevac, urgent supplies and solops.
Solops?
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Old 28th Jun 2010, 12:06
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Hello HM! We do have your name in Sweden you know but the hell and the man are joined and not seperated.

Solops was one of the function of the Swedish Navy Bell 206's and refers to Senior Officer Liaison Operations, basically flying senior officers out to sea to confer with the vessels captain and crew.
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