Which 355 is the right 355

[Dynamic Component]

I'm in the market for a utility 355. VFR with rescue hoist, cargo swing, wire strike and able to pick up 2200lbs externaly. I have no 355 experience, but have a few hours in the 350 range. Which 355 would be the best for the utility role and why? (F1/2, FX, N, NP)

Thanks for any info.

Cheers
DC

[choppersky]

F1/2: forget it.
FX: I don't know.
N or NP: NP is the new generation of the N, then NP could be the good choice.

[Mark Six]

Empty weight of a VFR 355N WITHOUT hook and hoist is around 1600kg. Max AUW is 2600kg, so it will not be possible to lift 2200lb (1000kg) externally with this variant.

[widgeon]

http://www.helilynx.com/images/pdf/3...%2015Feb08.pdf

Where do you want to operate ?.

355FX2 is Easa Approved , the C20R version I think is still pending.

Looking at the chart , I think the last column must be the AS350.

[RVDT]

And with an "N" you will need a spare engine!

[Dynamic Component]

I have heard that I might need a spare engine with a N.
Will be operating hot and high(mostly hot ,30+ degC)
Does anyone have any experience in the FX range?(355 that is)
Thanks for the feedback.

Cheers
DC

[Bondu121]

Unless you really need a twin - I'd go for a 350 B3. None of the 355 series will lift 1T with hoist fitted (you're also carrying the extra weight of a second engine).

[Dynamic Component]

Thanks Bondu121,
We have a B3. I wouldn't be asking the question if it didn't have to be a twin.
The hoist does not have to be fitted during lifting.

Cheers
DC

[paco]

Does it have to be a 355, and does it have to be Eurocopter?

They are not renowned for their lifting capabilities, though I rather like flying them myself. Their only real benefit as twins is that they are small enough not to annoy the neighbours, and yes, if you get anything Eurocopter make sure you can either sit on the ground for months while you wait for a new engine (and gearbox) or have a spare.

As I understand it, the FX is simply any model of 350/355 with a new wiring loom (sorely needed!) and some new instrumentation. Typically shaves about 100 lbs off the AUW. It's not a separate type as such.

phil

[9Aplus]

First feasible option:

BK117 B2

• Empty weight: 1,727 kg (3,807 lb)
• Max takeoff weight: 3,350 kg (7,385 lb)

[John Eacott]

I'd be surprised to find a 117B2 at that light a weight: nearer to 1950kg would be the norm.

But the Max AUW for hook operations is 3500kg, so 1000kg on the hook with crew and an hour fuel plus reserves is quite feasible

[Dynamic Component]

I have considered the BK, but we have no operational experience in it.
Any feedback would be appreciated.

Cheers
DC