Poor weather options
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In a previous role as chief pilot I had a letter from the CAA's enforcement department, alleging repeated infringements of the 500 ft rule by our unit aircraft.
Why they sent it I never did find out because a) the allgations revolved around us taking off and landing at our CAA cleared base helipad and b) we were flying under a Police AOC, which exempted us from Rule 5, in any case.
I suggested to the UEO that the Chief Constable might like to reply to them about wasting police time but he declined to do so.
Why they sent it I never did find out because a) the allgations revolved around us taking off and landing at our CAA cleared base helipad and b) we were flying under a Police AOC, which exempted us from Rule 5, in any case.
I suggested to the UEO that the Chief Constable might like to reply to them about wasting police time but he declined to do so.
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Oh God yes;
If you have the IMC option its a no-brainer, climb and use the qualifications. What got me was un-forecast medium ice at 2400ft. The aircraft went from nice, smart IFR fully toyed piece of kit to a flying ice lolly in about 20 seconds.
The torque shot up as the speed decayed and then she was coming down now matter what I did. I know now I should have turned right instead of left but I made that mistake as the bloke in the back decided to announce his imminent demise.
The next 2 aircraft through there picked up a small amount of ice and lost it in minutes. I just felt persecuted for some months.
The bloke in the back went to hospital where they diagnosed chronic indegestion brought on by the massive fried breakfast he'd eaten while keeping me waiting.
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If you have the IMC option its a no-brainer, climb and use the qualifications. What got me was un-forecast medium ice at 2400ft. The aircraft went from nice, smart IFR fully toyed piece of kit to a flying ice lolly in about 20 seconds.
The torque shot up as the speed decayed and then she was coming down now matter what I did. I know now I should have turned right instead of left but I made that mistake as the bloke in the back decided to announce his imminent demise.
The next 2 aircraft through there picked up a small amount of ice and lost it in minutes. I just felt persecuted for some months.
The bloke in the back went to hospital where they diagnosed chronic indegestion brought on by the massive fried breakfast he'd eaten while keeping me waiting.
SND
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Chopjock - the weather on the day was exactly as forecast so he had no excuse for launching - a simple telephone call to Swansea or Pembrey would have confirmed the poor conditions - Swansea was in cloud.
If you have a look at a map or google earth you will see just how far, in such poor conditions, he had to go following the coastline to get to Pembrey - not exactly a short hop to safety - it is a long way up the estuary so the risky option would be to take a dirty dart across with only the sea to look at. I don't know what he did but I bet it was much harder work and considerably less safe than accepting the met is crap and cancelling the flight.
No matter what we say on this forum, people will still launch and press on because it is the weekend and the only time they can fly so why should they let the weather stop them - anyway who listens to the met man anyway he's wrong so often. The list of excuses for getting airborne is shi*e weather is endless and the desire to go flying very strong - just a shame it costs people their lives.
If you have a look at a map or google earth you will see just how far, in such poor conditions, he had to go following the coastline to get to Pembrey - not exactly a short hop to safety - it is a long way up the estuary so the risky option would be to take a dirty dart across with only the sea to look at. I don't know what he did but I bet it was much harder work and considerably less safe than accepting the met is crap and cancelling the flight.
No matter what we say on this forum, people will still launch and press on because it is the weekend and the only time they can fly so why should they let the weather stop them - anyway who listens to the met man anyway he's wrong so often. The list of excuses for getting airborne is shi*e weather is endless and the desire to go flying very strong - just a shame it costs people their lives.
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There is nothing listed in AIP at the moment.
NATS | AIS - Home (AIP Pembrey - EGFP)
Maybe someone's got it on a post-it note somewhere??
Shoreham has some, the terminology appears to be the system-neutral RNAV (GNSS),
NATS | AIS - Home (AIP Shoreham - EGKA)
NATS | AIS - Home (AIP Pembrey - EGFP)
Maybe someone's got it on a post-it note somewhere??
Shoreham has some, the terminology appears to be the system-neutral RNAV (GNSS),
NATS | AIS - Home (AIP Shoreham - EGKA)
