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contracts........
At the end of the day, BP will still need a similar number of people to service the SNS on september 1 as they did Aug 31. As far as i can see, Bristows - or any offshore company - always run quite tight on staff numbers, so don't have excess staff sitting round waiting for extra work. People may need to change company, or get a change of base (hopefully all done to suit people's requests). whatever the reasons for the change of contract, i think all the guys at humberside - pilots, engineers and ops/ground staff - can be more than pleased with the great service they've given BP over the past years.
Don't think we should be panicking quite yet.
Don't think we should be panicking quite yet.
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calm down.....
Guys, sorry to say that Bristow's does not need anyone....we have 4 s76c++, and a back up of 3 ec155.....they are sitting in a private hanger at Norwich, along with 27 fully qualified IFR type rated P1s and P2s at home on gardening leave, and 22 engineers, 9 ops staff, a c.p. and 3 tre's and 2 ltcs.....so thanks all the same but after the 31st of aug get yourselves down the job centre in scunthorpe...
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Guys, sorry to say that Bristow's does not need anyone....we have 4 s76c++, and a back up of 3 ec155.....they are sitting in a private hanger at Norwich, along with 27 fully qualified IFR type rated P1s and P2s at home on gardening leave, and 22 engineers, 9 ops staff, a c.p. and 3 tre's and 2 ltcs.....so thanks all the same but after the 31st of aug get yourselves down the job centre in scunthorpe...
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Quote Pullharder:
Nice to see that there's still some compassion in this industry...
[email protected]!
Guys, sorry to say that Bristow's does not need anyone....we have 4 s76c++, and a back up of 3 ec155.....they are sitting in a private hanger at Norwich, along with 27 fully qualified IFR type rated P1s and P2s at home on gardening leave, and 22 engineers, 9 ops staff, a c.p. and 3 tre's and 2 ltcs.....so thanks all the same but after the 31st of aug get yourselves down the job centre in scunthorpe...
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The loss of the BP contract for you lot could be a blessing. It will untie your hands of so many things. With BP no longer "throwing their teddy out the pram" every 5 minutes, you have so much oppurtunity to service the other customers better. How many times did the other customers get shafted because of BP throwing their weight around, and certain people treating them like they were God? **** 'em.
This may well lead to more work, especially if you manage to get a decent forward looking management team to make it work. Just think of the all the work that was turned down because BP wouldn't release an aircraft?
Weekend charter work might even be a possibility now!
(PS: Would this put an end to that stupid saga of staying on base?)
Later little dudes! Surfs Up!
This may well lead to more work, especially if you manage to get a decent forward looking management team to make it work. Just think of the all the work that was turned down because BP wouldn't release an aircraft?
Weekend charter work might even be a possibility now!
(PS: Would this put an end to that stupid saga of staying on base?)
Later little dudes! Surfs Up!
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With customer service ethos like that at 'CHC UK' is it no wonder that customers are leaving to Bond, NHV and Bristow? Perhaps a few lessons can be learnt from Den Helder.
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Customer service like what? You idiot! The guys at Humberside have bent over backwards for that customer for years. They've given them everything, pulled rabbits out of hats for them, and they still went to another operator. The service they receive is very good, and I'm sure will continue to the end.
The same happened in Aberdeen when BP didn't renew with CHC. Daily flights there more than doubled in the first couple of months after. Crews were worried, but turned out they had no need to be.
Den Helder - Customer Service?! Don't make me laugh. You lot have more strikes under your belts than a baseball match!
The same happened in Aberdeen when BP didn't renew with CHC. Daily flights there more than doubled in the first couple of months after. Crews were worried, but turned out they had no need to be.
Den Helder - Customer Service?! Don't make me laugh. You lot have more strikes under your belts than a baseball match!
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jeeez...
sox6 you donut.......probably because the other quoted a cheaper price...nothing else...for the OTHER DONUTS that commented on my other thread.....if you knew anything about the north sea you would know it was a joke...NO OPERATER HAS LOTS OF SPARE PILOTS,ENGINEERS OR AIRCRAFT HANGING AROUND WAITING FOR WORK.. WE CAN HARDLY KEEP UP WITH THE CURRENT WORKLOAD!!!!!!!!!!
Compassion..... I happen to have a very good friend working at Humberside,just trying to lighten the mood.....
Compassion..... I happen to have a very good friend working at Humberside,just trying to lighten the mood.....
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In my experience the cross section of pilots (and engineers) that are employed by each of the operators on the North Sea is very similar. Everyone has their own personal pride in achieving their best, whether it be for themselves or their employer; including bending over backwards and pulling rabbits out of hats. The only difference between the operators has been the competency of management; or severe lack of it in some cases.
Playing musical chairs has not always been the prerogative of CHC. Over the years employees of Bristow, BAH, BIH, Bond and BCAL have also experienced the dreaded prospect of being laid off. Don't slag off other pilots, we're all in the same boat; the problem needs to be addressed further up the company chain.
Regrettably, while there is competition in this environment we will always be subjected to the vagaries of accountants, most of whom don't care about an individuals personal circumstances, other than their own. Whether you have provided an outstanding service or not is irrelevant to them. You only have to look at the contract history for Shell, BP, Mobil and Marathon, to name a few.
Playing musical chairs has not always been the prerogative of CHC. Over the years employees of Bristow, BAH, BIH, Bond and BCAL have also experienced the dreaded prospect of being laid off. Don't slag off other pilots, we're all in the same boat; the problem needs to be addressed further up the company chain.
Regrettably, while there is competition in this environment we will always be subjected to the vagaries of accountants, most of whom don't care about an individuals personal circumstances, other than their own. Whether you have provided an outstanding service or not is irrelevant to them. You only have to look at the contract history for Shell, BP, Mobil and Marathon, to name a few.
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The service run out of Humberside last year was an all stops out effort by the staff as everybody knew that only the best was going to be good enough to retain BP.
Humberside over an extended period was flying more flights a day with 5 aircraft than Aberdeen was with 15(?). Albeit shorter flights but each flight requires turning round. Minimum age of aircraft about 15. A huge engineering effort to achieve this with old aircraft and lack of spares.
BP is probably about 75% of Humbersides work so the loss of this contract is going to cause major disruption to a lot of lives.
The general feeling is that Bristows will fly it using Humberside as a line station so jobs actually at Humberside will be minimal.
TUPE probably does not apply as it is contract end.
SOX 6 hasn't a clue what he is talking about. [email protected] is putting it mildly.
Fingers are being pointed but not in the direction of the Humberside staff, their operational performance and customer service.
Humberside over an extended period was flying more flights a day with 5 aircraft than Aberdeen was with 15(?). Albeit shorter flights but each flight requires turning round. Minimum age of aircraft about 15. A huge engineering effort to achieve this with old aircraft and lack of spares.
BP is probably about 75% of Humbersides work so the loss of this contract is going to cause major disruption to a lot of lives.
The general feeling is that Bristows will fly it using Humberside as a line station so jobs actually at Humberside will be minimal.
TUPE probably does not apply as it is contract end.
SOX 6 hasn't a clue what he is talking about. [email protected] is putting it mildly.
Fingers are being pointed but not in the direction of the Humberside staff, their operational performance and customer service.
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look guys as someone who is in it and worried about my future I dont think the future is going to be sorted out for some time yet.. there are possibilities for us all of that I am sure - what I am not sure of is where they will be, only time will tell I guess.
Comments by certain people on here are not at all helpful, we as a group are trying to maintain our professionalism even though most of us most likely feel like telling BP where to stuff it right now.
Its going to be a s**t 5 months
Comments by certain people on here are not at all helpful, we as a group are trying to maintain our professionalism even though most of us most likely feel like telling BP where to stuff it right now.
Its going to be a s**t 5 months
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Even though Bristow pilots are (were) under the threat of redundancy, the company most likely cannot fully crew this contract. Time to get the CV in if you are already based in Humberside.
Chin up ladies and gents.
Chin up ladies and gents.
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Real World
In amongst all the bottom lip trembling and foot stamping, some people seem to have overlooked the harsh truth of the real world where the client is King. A helicopter support contract is just another commercial contract, no different in essence from the cleaning company that cleans the offices or catering company that does school meals. The client defines the task and the supplier offers a service. The client will assume that the workers will bend over backwards to give the best possible service, it is up to management to work out an effective compromise between numbers and coverage within the bounds of a sensible bid. There is unlikely to be a clause to consider Captain A`s little Johnny who has just gone to a new school and has made lots of nice new friends.
BP`s actions are not new, oil companies have been seeking best value for money since they began operations, it is part of the business that many of us have chosen to be in.
BP`s actions are not new, oil companies have been seeking best value for money since they began operations, it is part of the business that many of us have chosen to be in.
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Snarlie
There aint any lip tremblin/footstampin because humberside lost the contract. Its more likely to be the way its all come about.
Im sure the guys dont need to be told the ways of the world. They are all, im sure, quite intelligent blokes and to compare offshore contracts to office cleaners contracts is a little naive.
There aint any lip tremblin/footstampin because humberside lost the contract. Its more likely to be the way its all come about.
Im sure the guys dont need to be told the ways of the world. They are all, im sure, quite intelligent blokes and to compare offshore contracts to office cleaners contracts is a little naive.
