Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Rotorheads
Reload this Page >

National Air Support

Wikiposts
Search
Rotorheads A haven for helicopter professionals to discuss the things that affect them

National Air Support

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 22nd Feb 2010, 10:50
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: upyours
Posts: 294
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
National Air Support

It seems to me that this is moving at a pace now. With trials being set up and questions in the houses of parliament. I was wondering what the implications might be for the observers in place, will they continue as is? Will the pilots be employed by the Home Office or department they set up? Who will own the aircraft? Will the tax payers that bought them in the first place get their money back? Which units will stay and which will go? etc, etc, etc.....Any views or even inside information.
Fly_For_Fun is offline  
Old 22nd Feb 2010, 14:02
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: uk
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
*****Reporter alert*******
B.U.D.G.I.E is offline  
Old 22nd Feb 2010, 14:10
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: upyours
Posts: 294
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sorry to disapoint, but no. Just an interested bystander.
Fly_For_Fun is offline  
Old 22nd Feb 2010, 18:43
  #4 (permalink)  
Tightgit
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The artist formerly known as john du'pruyting
Age: 65
Posts: 804
Received 5 Likes on 2 Posts
1. Probably
2. No, possibly
3. Don't think it's been sorted out yet
4. See 4
5. Same answer as 3
handysnaks is offline  
Old 22nd Feb 2010, 19:42
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Anywhere
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Dont give too much away mate...
timex is offline  
Old 22nd Feb 2010, 21:03
  #6 (permalink)  
Tightgit
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The artist formerly known as john du'pruyting
Age: 65
Posts: 804
Received 5 Likes on 2 Posts
Timex, as I understand it my answers are accurate as of now! However, tomorrow they may be wrong.
handysnaks is offline  
Old 22nd Feb 2010, 21:06
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Anywhere
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I'll be surprised if they last that long..
timex is offline  
Old 22nd Feb 2010, 23:02
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dudley (UK)
Posts: 121
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question

"National Air Support" ?

Of what?

And where?
Skidkid is offline  
Old 23rd Feb 2010, 19:07
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: U.K.
Posts: 368
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Of what?

And where?
1. Air

2. Nationally

Spanish Waltzer is offline  
Old 24th Feb 2010, 12:02
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dudley (UK)
Posts: 121
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I was being pedantic!

There is nothing in the thread so far that explains what is being supported or in which country. I presume that you are referring to Police Air Support operations in the United Kingdom.

Let's not forget that there are readers fom all over the world and in all walks of life who read these posts and may not understand what is being talked about.
Skidkid is offline  
Old 24th Feb 2010, 14:56
  #11 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: upyours
Posts: 294
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hey Skidkid, did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?
Fly_For_Fun is offline  
Old 24th Feb 2010, 15:49
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dudley (UK)
Posts: 121
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I certainly did and I've been getting even grumpier as the day progresses.

Role on 5 o'clock!!!!
Skidkid is offline  
Old 24th Feb 2010, 21:30
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 741
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A quick Google search brought this up which might be of interest to you in Dudley :
http://www.west-midlands-pa.gov.uk/d...ategory=comm15

Paragraph 12. is particularly interesting

Coconutty is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2010, 08:14
  #14 (permalink)  

Purveyor of Egg Liqueur to Lucifer
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Alles über die platz
Posts: 4,694
Received 38 Likes on 24 Posts
Police chairman rejects helicopter pool plan

Nothing is ever set in stone!

A HANDS Off Our Helicopter warning has been sounded by the chairman of Cleveland Police Authority, Councillor Dave McLuckie.

He told a meeting of the authority that there has been a discussion at ACPO - the Association of Chief Police Officers - on the idea of bringing police helicopters in the country into a central unit.

Cllr McLuckie said he had urged fellow police authority chairmen who had police helicopters to resist any move to have a pool of about 20 police helicopters in a central location in the country.

“The police authority will decide what it does with its resources,” said Cllr McLuckie.

He said the idea of a central pool came out of a discussion about providing policing for the Olympics in 2012.

“We could look at seconding the helicopter in some arrangement for the period of the Olympics but we will not have anything to do with setting up a national pool of police helicopters.

“I would not want and I would not allow our helicopter to be part of a central pool. It takes away local control,” said Cllr McLuckie.

He said the Cleveland police helicopter was used extensively.

“My message is: Hands of our helicopter. You are not getting it,” said Cllr McLuckie.
Gazette Live - News - Local News - Police chairman rejects helicopter pool plan
SilsoeSid is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2010, 18:44
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Anywhere
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
SS, hasn't that changed already? ISTR that Cleveland have signed up to National Air Support?
timex is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2010, 23:17
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Iceland
Age: 53
Posts: 509
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Let's not forget that there are readers fom all over the world and in all walks of life who read these posts and may not understand what is being talked about.
I was thinking the same. One shouldn't have to rape dear old Google with questions just to interpret good and meaningful discussions like this one on Rotorheads.
Heli-Ice is offline  
Old 28th Feb 2010, 16:17
  #17 (permalink)  

Purveyor of Egg Liqueur to Lucifer
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Alles über die platz
Posts: 4,694
Received 38 Likes on 24 Posts
Timex,

Well, by looking at the date of the article, 26 Feb, I guess it depends who did the signing and what they actually signed up for. Rumour has it that some Forces haven't even been told by the unit what is possibly happening to their aircraft.
SilsoeSid is offline  
Old 28th Feb 2010, 16:39
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Liverpool based Geordie, so calm down, calm down kidda!!
Age: 60
Posts: 2,051
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 6 Posts
Hide it from the police authority (their bosses)?? That shows good integrity!!!
jayteeto is offline  
Old 28th Feb 2010, 18:40
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: U.K.
Posts: 368
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just to take this way off thread for a second, there was talk a few years ago of some of the larger UK fire brigades looking to develop a helo support capability for airborne spotting/control & metro SAR/CASEVAC.

Would/Could a national air support organisation go some way into being able to provide greater capability in this way by having a selection of airframes/roles that could be called upon by a range of organisations - eg police/fire/ambulance and therefore be funded centrally?
Spanish Waltzer is offline  
Old 28th Feb 2010, 20:58
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 495
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
and therefore be funded centrally?
You're 'avin a larf, aincha?
Droopy is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.