ABZ pilots are we flying tomorrow?
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ABZ pilots are we flying tomorrow?
As we all know the last few days haven't been the best ...snow, lightning, etc. What are the thoughts on tomorrow ? Personally I think it's a waste of time going to work in the morning , afternoon will probably be better .
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I dragged 19 very grateful bears back to ABZ this morning although by a very scenic route I must admit. No, go in in the morning and be ready to lob into the luft when the conditions allow - it's the least we can do.
Did I mention I'm off tomorrow
Did I mention I'm off tomorrow
Winter Flying
I always check the full 'Met' from home before I leave if I think here is any doubt. There is no point struggling in and putting more cars on the road in poor weather when there is no chance of flying. Ops always seem happy enough to accept that I have done the planning from home and will keep reviewing.
But if the flights can be done, obviously we have a duty to get the guys back especially at this time of year. I'm guessing there will be a lot of backlogged flights that won't get done over the next 2 days. A shame, but better to be safe offshore and enjoy your Xmas a bit late, than struggling to get home when the weather just isn't good enough.
But if the flights can be done, obviously we have a duty to get the guys back especially at this time of year. I'm guessing there will be a lot of backlogged flights that won't get done over the next 2 days. A shame, but better to be safe offshore and enjoy your Xmas a bit late, than struggling to get home when the weather just isn't good enough.
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Ground Fight said "this weather is a bit extreme" so let's stay home under the duvet - so much for the reputation of North Sea pilots!
Aw, Didddums
Look back at the TAF and METAR for the local area over the past few days and we see unusual, but not extreme weather. Anyone from CYHZ care to give an example of a "normal" winter TAF/METAR? If the posts by Ground Flight are anything to go by it will make the EGPD boys wet their beds!
Aw, Didddums
Look back at the TAF and METAR for the local area over the past few days and we see unusual, but not extreme weather. Anyone from CYHZ care to give an example of a "normal" winter TAF/METAR? If the posts by Ground Flight are anything to go by it will make the EGPD boys wet their beds!
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Next thing you know they will be wanting to fly the things like a UAV....tea and slippers at the house and mail the paycheck please!
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Listen "Buddy" and i use that term loosely , if i knew "Special" people were on this site I would have explained it in further detail .
PPNG its very easy to jump to conclusions but if you ever watched the news or actually lived in Aberdeen you might realise that the major problem is actually getting too work in one piece (not the flying) since the roads are so bad and having an airport thats snow closed doesn't help your flights . Thats extreme
This isn't a pissing contest
PPNG its very easy to jump to conclusions but if you ever watched the news or actually lived in Aberdeen you might realise that the major problem is actually getting too work in one piece (not the flying) since the roads are so bad and having an airport thats snow closed doesn't help your flights . Thats extreme
This isn't a pissing contest
I see on the Bristow website that the answer to the question in the original post (ABZ Pilots -are we flying tomorrow?) was clearly - YES (at least at Bristow)
They completed 58 flights today between 0730 and 2130.
Congratulations on getting the job done.........
(PS Sure the other companies were doing a great job as well, just that I only looked at Bristow, so regards to all......)
They completed 58 flights today between 0730 and 2130.
Congratulations on getting the job done.........
(PS Sure the other companies were doing a great job as well, just that I only looked at Bristow, so regards to all......)
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So, P1 says that because the weather in Halifax yesterday was way better than Aberdeen has been recently my comments are crap? Could it be that you misunderstood my post P1? The fact is that the guys in Halifax could look back and post examples of what "extreme" really means and this week's weather in Aberdeen doesn't come close. Do they have a cosy lie-in under their duvet? No.
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Groundflight,
How long have you lived in Aberdeen for? This isn't extreme weather. This is Northern Scotland. I drove in from Aberdeenshire - no problem on the roads at all. I know Aberdeen City council are not the best at getting roads clear, but having lived in Aberdeen for nearly 20 years I have never failed to get to work. If you don't like it here, go and find somewhere else to work. There are plenty who would take your place.
And if you were flying yesterday, I hope you weren't too fatigued having been Pruning into the wee small hours.
How long have you lived in Aberdeen for? This isn't extreme weather. This is Northern Scotland. I drove in from Aberdeenshire - no problem on the roads at all. I know Aberdeen City council are not the best at getting roads clear, but having lived in Aberdeen for nearly 20 years I have never failed to get to work. If you don't like it here, go and find somewhere else to work. There are plenty who would take your place.
And if you were flying yesterday, I hope you weren't too fatigued having been Pruning into the wee small hours.
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Droopystop - You have it spot on, Aberdeen is in the North of Scotland, it gets cold and snows a bit (infrequently) See ABZ engineers thread.
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When I worked in Aberdeen I bought myself a cheap 4x4 with good tyres. I was always amazed to see people careering into work in a rear-wheel drive BMW, sliding all over the place !
Of course, if you know the weather is going to be crap, you can always stay in the Skean-Du or whatever it was called.
If you live up there, then you have to be equipped and be prepared for it every year.
Of course, if you know the weather is going to be crap, you can always stay in the Skean-Du or whatever it was called.
If you live up there, then you have to be equipped and be prepared for it every year.
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Ah yes,
4X4 cures all ills.
It is always entertaining to travel the back routes into ABZ at this time of year. Almost every bend has a 4X4 in the ditch, where some new owner has fallen into the trap of believing that it will stick to the road no matter what. You may be able to get going when others can't but you have the same number of points of contact for braking and cornering.
OA
4X4 cures all ills.
It is always entertaining to travel the back routes into ABZ at this time of year. Almost every bend has a 4X4 in the ditch, where some new owner has fallen into the trap of believing that it will stick to the road no matter what. You may be able to get going when others can't but you have the same number of points of contact for braking and cornering.
OA
You may very well have a 4x4, and know how to drive it properly, and check the weather before you go out, and carry the right stuff in the car etc etc, but when the tw@t in the "rear-wheel drive BMW, sliding all over the place" gets stuck sideways on the hill in front of you, and the lorry behind can't get started again now he's had to stop, that's you fecked. (BTW I've got a rear wheel drive BMW and while its normally great, its truly sh1t in the snow and ice, I just leave it in the drive when the wx is like it has been for the last few days).
Aberdeen city is a nightmare in the snow, it's easier to come in from the country, at least those who live there seem to have a little more common sense.
Aberdeen city is a nightmare in the snow, it's easier to come in from the country, at least those who live there seem to have a little more common sense.
Have you folks discovered things called studded tires or effective devices known as Tire Chains? Even BMW's benefit from such devices.
As to 4x4's.....just because you can go like stink doesn't mean you can turn or stop!
You ain't lived until you experience an inch of ice on Dallas or Atltanta roadways, or seen cars towing U-Haul trailers in the snow......Yeehaw!
Whoopee Ty Ri Yo, Cowboy!
As to 4x4's.....just because you can go like stink doesn't mean you can turn or stop!
You ain't lived until you experience an inch of ice on Dallas or Atltanta roadways, or seen cars towing U-Haul trailers in the snow......Yeehaw!
Whoopee Ty Ri Yo, Cowboy!
Having flown out of YHZ for ten years, I can certainly claim to have flown in some crap, icing-kit-on-full ILS's in full-on blizzards with tower calling 1/8th and 100 with 80 knots quartering headwinds come to mind, but I can quite happily claim we are moving away from that. It seems the customer doesn't want their personell driving in some of the crap we can fly in, so if it's that nasty, we often watch the weather from home nowadays. Just put snow tires on my Forester just in case.....
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Mmmmm,
Aberdeen weather, yeah right, try Newfoundland in the winter......Was also out last week moving drills in Ontario, -35C with wind chill of -47C and didn;t hear the boys on ground bitch or whine once.And they were out in it for 8hrs with no shelter.
Merry Xmas to all.
Aberdeen weather, yeah right, try Newfoundland in the winter......Was also out last week moving drills in Ontario, -35C with wind chill of -47C and didn;t hear the boys on ground bitch or whine once.And they were out in it for 8hrs with no shelter.
Merry Xmas to all.