Great North Air Ambulance.......
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TV stuff going upmarket with new HD camera kit being fitted for the next two series. I think there is talk of getting James Cameron to direct series 7 in 3D, or better still Gerry Anderson in Supermarionation...
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MAS guy was sorted by the Co. and is now in another MAS post
In fact occupying a seat that your own skinny backside would not be unfamiliar with, MINself !!
In fact occupying a seat that your own skinny backside would not be unfamiliar with, MINself !!
3 aircraft is a lot to support in an area of low population
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"Heard 3 new or used AS365Ns are on order first one for Teesside in January second Carlisle and 3 eventually to replace old HEMS. Someone on the inside must know"
Indeed they do appear on here from time to time masquerading as "GAAS PR"
"Heard 3 new or used AS365Ns are on order first one for Teesside in January second Carlisle and 3 eventually to replace old HEMS. Someone on the inside must know"
Indeed they do appear on here from time to time masquerading as "GAAS PR"
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Just to help you along, here's a clue regarding the ID of the previous owner of the first helicopter slated for GNAS...
"xxxxxxxxxxx born 14 December 1979 in Chester) is an English professional footballer who plays as a striker for Manchester United.[2]
The son of a former footballer, xxxxx began his senior career at Liverpool in 1996. He progressed through the Liverpool youth team and scored on his debut in May 1997. In his first full season in the Premier League he finished as joint top scorer. He repeated the feat the following year and was Liverpool's top goal scorer from 1997–2004, in spite of a recurring hamstring injury. His first major club honours came in 2001 when Liverpool won a cup treble of the UEFA Cup, FA Cup and Football League Cup, and xxxxx was the recipient of the Ballon d'Or that year. He went on to score 118 goals in 216 appearances in the English Premier League for Liverpool"
"xxxxxxxxxxx born 14 December 1979 in Chester) is an English professional footballer who plays as a striker for Manchester United.[2]
The son of a former footballer, xxxxx began his senior career at Liverpool in 1996. He progressed through the Liverpool youth team and scored on his debut in May 1997. In his first full season in the Premier League he finished as joint top scorer. He repeated the feat the following year and was Liverpool's top goal scorer from 1997–2004, in spite of a recurring hamstring injury. His first major club honours came in 2001 when Liverpool won a cup treble of the UEFA Cup, FA Cup and Football League Cup, and xxxxx was the recipient of the Ballon d'Or that year. He went on to score 118 goals in 216 appearances in the English Premier League for Liverpool"
It may be a matter of initial economics.
Finding 3 similar MD902 in the market will be more difficult than finding 3 AS365N series. Around 100 of the MD 900 and 902 were built and over 800 of the AS365 family... though probably not many more than about 400 in the selected AS354N slot, still probably ten times as many.
Either way a customer looking for 3 of anything rare - and the 902 is rare - will find prices climbing.....
I assume that new is out of the question for GNAA.
That said the Euro in Eurocopter is an expensive spares option when compared with the Do$$ar in the MD so first savings may be added costs later.
Finding 3 similar MD902 in the market will be more difficult than finding 3 AS365N series. Around 100 of the MD 900 and 902 were built and over 800 of the AS365 family... though probably not many more than about 400 in the selected AS354N slot, still probably ten times as many.
Either way a customer looking for 3 of anything rare - and the 902 is rare - will find prices climbing.....
I assume that new is out of the question for GNAA.
That said the Euro in Eurocopter is an expensive spares option when compared with the Do$$ar in the MD so first savings may be added costs later.
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Either way a customer looking for 3 of anything rare - and the 902 is rare - will find prices climbing.....
True, but they already had one, Lincs and Notts are in the queue for a new one so LNAA will be available before too long and PAS will be servicing the Trinity House contract with another. So they are out there.
Perhaps the future plan calls for more inter-hospital transfers where the speed and endurance of the Dauphin will be superior to the 902?
They obviously haven't chosen them for their all-terrain capability...
True, but they already had one, Lincs and Notts are in the queue for a new one so LNAA will be available before too long and PAS will be servicing the Trinity House contract with another. So they are out there.
Perhaps the future plan calls for more inter-hospital transfers where the speed and endurance of the Dauphin will be superior to the 902?
They obviously haven't chosen them for their all-terrain capability...
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Surely the Trinity helicopter will be busy doing lighthouses
Indeed it will. But my point was that if GNAA had been seriously looking for 902's it was out there and available before PAS claimed it for TH.
Indeed it will. But my point was that if GNAA had been seriously looking for 902's it was out there and available before PAS claimed it for TH.
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When will that be though!
IMHO, sounds like a poorly actioned transition from one provider of aircraft and support to another, as in between time, the AA cover in that neck of the woods will undoubtedly be effected.
Just as well there's excellent mutual support to fill the gap until they've sorted themselves out.
IMHO, sounds like a poorly actioned transition from one provider of aircraft and support to another, as in between time, the AA cover in that neck of the woods will undoubtedly be effected.
Just as well there's excellent mutual support to fill the gap until they've sorted themselves out.
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Cover in North
I would have thought cover has been affected. The Northumbrian Bolkow was taken off line in April as it was said to be too small (short BO) to do effective work. Response to Northumbria meant ac transitting from either Penrith or Teesside. Also if Cumbria machine is at Berwick (see YouTube) how does it then cover bottom end of Cumbria - what do local fundraisers think of this? Are they aware?
In Nov the 902 was lost as the new contract had not been sorted. Compounded by Cumbrian Dauphin going off line.
The Bolkow was brought out of mothballs to cover whole area for around 4 weeks while Dauph fixed. During recent Cumbria floods the NWAA had a machine based up by Cockermouth to help out.
I believe WYAA also relocated to Bagby to cover top end of Yorks and coast. Nice to see this cross cover, but could it have been avoided by bit more forethought?
In Nov the 902 was lost as the new contract had not been sorted. Compounded by Cumbrian Dauphin going off line.
The Bolkow was brought out of mothballs to cover whole area for around 4 weeks while Dauph fixed. During recent Cumbria floods the NWAA had a machine based up by Cockermouth to help out.
I believe WYAA also relocated to Bagby to cover top end of Yorks and coast. Nice to see this cross cover, but could it have been avoided by bit more forethought?
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I guess that's what happens when those that make critical decisions in AA charities have a limited background in aviation and make poor decisions in the hope "it'll be awright" because everyone will bend over backwards to bridge the problem brought about by their inadequacies.
Let's hope the good folk of the North are extra safe whilst they're out and about until this debacle gets sorted.
Let's hope the good folk of the North are extra safe whilst they're out and about until this debacle gets sorted.