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Old 17th Oct 2009, 20:16
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Rio police helicopter shot down by drug dealers

This is just being reported from Brazil

Rio de Janeiro drug traffickers shoot down police helicopter
Two Brazilian policemen were killed on Saturday after their helicopter came under fire from suspected traffickers in a Rio slum.


By Andrew Downie in Sao Paolo and Colin Freeman
Published: 7:35PM BST 17 Oct 2009

The aircraft made a forced landing in the Morro dos Mocacos favela after the pilot was shot in the leg, but then burst into flames with two officers trapped inside. Two others, including the pilot, managed to escape. A fierce gunbattle then erupted as more than 100 policemen, backed by armoured vehicles and special forces, rushed into the area to regain control.

The helicopter had originally been responding to a turf war between rival drug gangs that erupted in the neighbourhood shortly before dawn.

At least seven other people were reported killed during the violence - four of them found dead in a car - and eight more were wounded as trouble spread, according to Brazilian news reports. Some of the bullets from the shootouts hit a nearby school, causing a short circuit that turned into a blaze. Police struggled to contain the unrest and stop it spreading to more upmarket areas frequented by tourists.

Local businesses near to the favelas closed their doors and bus companies ordered their vehicles off the streets after angry residents ordered passengers from at least 10 buses and then torched them with Molotov cocktails.

At the entrance to at least one favela, residents manning barricades of burning tyres attacked police cars. The violence began in the early hours of Saturday morning after traffickers from the Morro do São João favela invaded the Morro dos Macacos favela in a bid to seize control of the drug business there.

Rio has more than 1,000 shantytowns, most of which are controlled by one of three organised crime gangs. The violence was the worst in Rio de Janeiro for several years. Similar disturbances effectively closed down the city for several days in 2002 and 2007. More than 6000 people are killed every year in the state of Rio de Janeiro, 1000 of them by police.

The incident comes just weeks after the city was awarded the 2016 summer Olympics.


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I appreciate it is in the open news etc, but in light of recent events, is it really a sensible thing to bring this action to the attention of the numb nuts that may be reading this site?
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SS,

I thought that Rotorheads is for helicopter pilots, who read this site?

Whilst I understand what you're saying (I think), the last thing that we should be expecting on our site is to stop posting and debating helicopter news because some scrote may read here what is on the front page of the daily paper
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Well IMHO for what it's worth,

Scrotey Boy would probably see a picture of a wreckage on fire on the front page of the paper and assume it was Pakistan/Afghanistan or another NI incident.

Because it is on here, as are all the posts about the recent events, it is directly saying to them, this is what you could try next!

I thought that Rotorheads is for helicopter pilots, who read this site?

Whilst I understand what you're saying (I think), the last thing that we should be expecting on our site is to stop posting and debating helicopter news because some scrote may read here what is on the front page of the daily paper
Are we blinkered enough to think that they don't monitor the results of their past works on this site and others? Much like the arsonist at a building fire shows up to see the reaction to his/her action!
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Svenstron;

Did you miss the bit
but in light of recent events
Clearly if you were one of the Scrotes, we would be safe.

Here is some background reading!

It started a while ago, but more recently, this...
which possibly led to this...
..and then, as if in a copy cat kind of way, this!

Not from round these parts Sven...are you?

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Silsoe,

Are you suggesting they might copy "Shanty Towns", form into three rival gangs, take up gang wars with automatic weapons....or what?

Lord knows they watch the Tele and see all sorts of crime shows as it is....should those be banned in your view?

The UK is a "Progressive State" what with all the PC, immigration, and defiance of law and order that promotes.....far be it for pprune to be a source of criminal intelligence that has a more effective influence upon the conduct of your criminal element than all the other factors at play.

Perhaps, you might go down the Pub for a while and see if your Mates think as you do!
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Whatever.

Guess that's why a lot of crimes are called "copy cat", as those with fluff between their ears tend to do!

The 'Copy Cat' principle is clearly shown here, as SASless hasn't noticed that it was Sven who wrongly linked any comments I made, to the Rio crime fraternity.
Some would call it jumping on the band wagon, however those that usually make that jump, read the thread a bit first!

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Just watching CNN before and they had TV footage of the AS350 heading earthwards. Interesting though is that it was on fire on the way down, BUT the fire was coming from underneath the area of where the tail boom attaches to the main fuselage.

Any comments from anyone on why this could be burning from there.

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Holes in fuel tank, tracer or incindiary bullets. I guess some of the movies you see got the flames right after all.
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Police chopper shot down

Looks bad, Pilot did well to get the thing down, although it appears the machine may have rolled. - Not sure how long the T/R servo would function so close to the source of the fire, this could be a factor!!

Maybe EC will start providing a self sealing fuel tank option along with kevlar seats for operating civilian machines in essentially war zones!!

respect to the officers trying to deal with these drug running scumbags!!

Rio is one f****ed up place!!

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Originally Posted by SilsoeSid
I appreciate it is in the open news etc, but in light of recent events, is it really a sensible thing to bring this action to the attention of the numb nuts that may be reading this site?
As I watch the news here in Melbourne, with graphic footage of the burning Squirrel on its way down, I must confess I can't see the point that you're trying to make?

Apart from that, what a dreadful thing to happen

We had our Polair hit at night by Julian Knight during the Hoddle Street siege many years ago, it was only good luck that the round hit the UC leg and was deflected into the fuel tank. Later analysis showed that it was spot on to hit the pilot had it not been deflected
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12 dead in Rio drug violence - Drugs : news, world | euronews

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Sven seems to have been confused with my post of,

“Are we blinkered enough to think that they don't monitor the results of their past works on this site and others?”

With 3 different police helicopters attacked in this country (UK) in the last few months, one of which was destroyed, I think it reasonable to assume that some UK scrotey boys are watching this site, and others like it, to see the reaction that there is to their work. (their work as in the UK scrotes' work that attacked and destroyed the 3 UK helicopters recently)

So far the modus operandi have been the same, each appear to have gone further than the last, with the most recent caught in the act and perhaps prevented from going a lot further.

My worry is that these scrotes will be looking at the next step and Senior Pilot has highlighted to them yet another, now proven in real life, method of taking out a helicopter.

Yes I haven't helped things, by continuing this thread and keeping it at the top of the list and Yes there have been helicopters shot at and downed on TV, probably since the 50's, but that is TV, or at least was.

Now it has been highlighted as a real, possible and not so difficult way of downing a helicopter, outside of a war zone, if a UK Police helicopter comes under attack from small arms fire in the coming few months, will you accept that it may be more than just coincidence!

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I thought that Rotorheads is for helicopter pilots, who read this site?
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SS,

If you think that there will be more attacks on helicopters because of postings on THIS site, I'm affraid your world is a bit small. There are quite a number of news-sites that keep the general public more up to date than pprune does... when it comes to actual news and teories/information. Not too mention other sources of imagination, like Hollywood etc.

Not too long ago, there was the robbery in Sweden. The media told everybody how the robbers got acess to the helicopter used, and how they disabled the police-helicopters (even without making any damage) Can you link that event to previous post made here perhaps??

How many hardcore criminals do you think have NOT been thinking about shooting down helicopters until now?

Criminals are smarter than you seem to think they are, they don't need pprune to give them the ideas

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There is a link on Drudge Report this morning:

Reuters AlertNet - Helicopter downed in Rio violence; two police dead
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Thanks for your cheers Nubian,

Not soley from this site, what I am saying is that although it will be covered in the media, sites like this, as I said before, give a lot more information than you seem to appreciate!


Anyway, some days we are told by the mods to be careful what we post, on others it seems the 'rules of engagement' are open.

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They are out there, watching us.....................
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another thread decimated by pilots with just too much time on their hands. Civil heli gets shot down. That's news guys.
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Gentlemen!

Gentlemen, let's all just calm down, this jeuvenile exchange isn't paiting the best picture of our industry, everyone is entitled to their view that's the wonderful thing about our coutnry but let's not degrade ourselves by entering into a tit for tat petty argument, sounds like the playground here.
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I thought there were no guns in the UK anymore?
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