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Old 4th Aug 2004, 06:30
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pohm1,

If you're from SE Qld? then you should know of a aircraft of that exact description doing exactly that

Ooh man-I almost confused myself there
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Old 4th Aug 2004, 07:20
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At least if it is the same one it should have a lovely new set of blades on it... Oh what a feeling!!!
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Old 4th Aug 2004, 07:46
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Its a new one on me, where is it?
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Old 4th Aug 2004, 09:23
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A bit of clarification here.
The company in no way pushed me in to this, it was completely my idea.
Im still at the stage where I fly for the love of it, and look forward to a career in it. Would the money be better spent on a 44 or 206? Almost certainly, however its not like I have the prospect of making the money I do now when I start my commercial flying career.
I know that Im not the only one, but I have really given up alot to pursue a career as a helo pilot. Lots of work, no holidays, staying home alot, so its also a bit of a reward to keep me going.
I think the biggest decider for me was that I wasnt even sure that I would ever get to fly a 500, so when the opportunity arose there was no way I was going to let it go.
Thanx for the replies.
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Old 5th Aug 2004, 01:53
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Mate. You have chosen well. There are few helicopters as fun, and as affordable as the 500 to get endorsed on. Of course there will be knockers, but most will be the "green man" syndrome. I'm sure you may even get to x-hire this a/c albeit maybe icus, but go on, have a great time in it. I love them.

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Old 5th Aug 2004, 02:49
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pohm1,
If my memory serves me corectly its somewhere in Brisbane.
I think it may be from Archerfield?
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Old 5th Aug 2004, 05:11
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Spaced,

Enjoy the 500, as I (and others) referred to, they are good fun to fly. Sounds like you are in a fortunate (read no-doubt well-earned) position to follow a passion. Good luck to you.

Afterwards you could also grow a cheesy 70's Pornstar 'tash and pretend your Magnum PI..............

Jokes aside, good luck with the endorsement!

TCF
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Old 6th Aug 2004, 03:12
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Spaced..

The Thumb rules...in all phases of flight....if you are going to move the stick....lead with the trim button...as the stick force disappears...stop beeping the cyclic trim. When making small..small cyclic movements...no need to trim...but if small movement for a longish term...trim the force away.
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Old 6th Aug 2004, 06:53
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Check with your instructor first before leading with the thumb button when trimming cyclic forces

Leading with the thumb is the exact opposite to what I was taught as it burns out trim motors due to the much higher workload they are subject too in overcoming the cyclic forces.

I think you will be shown to position the cylic first then trim out.
After a short period of time you'll be doing it without thinking about it.

Call the Aeropower boys they have around eight 500's I think and they would be more than happy to yarn with you about it

Fly safe
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Old 10th Aug 2004, 02:56
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been flying yet? What were your impressions.

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Old 10th Aug 2004, 07:47
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I got tied up with my work over the weekend and had to put it off.

Looks like the same for this weekend, but the weekend after Im determine to get up.
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Old 1st Nov 2004, 11:31
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Hughes/MD500 questions

Hello all you out there.

Does anyone here know what is the operating cost of hughes 500?
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Old 1st Nov 2004, 14:50
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Try Helmut at the URL below:

http://www.aogheliservices.com/
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Old 1st Nov 2004, 17:35
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Tricky one really, depends upon what you are using one for and where in the world it is.

I have owned / run them for over 10 years, tend to be very reliable, but here is a quick run down for a UK based one.

Insurance 9000 to 14000 on 250k hull value with betterment and xs bought out ( 14 k is for any puropose )

Annual inspection 2500 plus retification

100 hour / 6 month inspection 600 to 1200 depending if compressor needs inspecting.

Fuel 25 imp gallons / hour

Component costs are what they are - use MD's component reserve figure, suggest you add a bit as things do not always last, espically if the machine flies as a private one. Eg blades leading edge erosion strips.

Worst ever year running one 32k on 250 hours, but this included 2 new main rotor blades and FCU. But insurance at the time was 6500 and fuel was .15p per litre !!!!!!!!!!

You will not have more fun in any other type of helicopter. Given the option buy a low skidded D model, the best of the type.
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Old 2nd Nov 2004, 21:28
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thank you!

This helps.
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 16:09
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OH6A/MD-500C Vne Question

Stolen Post from another less professional website....

I don't have my manuals at home. A new pilot called me that was flying an OH-6 (MD-500C) at 10,000 feet MSL and had a bad MR vibration at cruise speed of 100 kts. slowed down to 85 kts and it went away. It does not do it at 3000 feet. I told him I thought it was retreating Blade Stall. Anybody else?

My response was the aircraft was exceeding Vne and thus could have been approaching Retreating Blade Stall, some responses had to do with compressibility problems.

The aircraft in question was clean, light, and had a 20R engine vice the -18 that the type normally had. The OAT had to be very cold....event happened a few days ago.

Any ideas?
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 16:15
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10000 msl
oat very low
the two combined could have caused ice on the top or the bottom of the blade causing the angle of attack to grow thus causig a temparary less than normal vne, but im only a student but that sounds like the thing
and i fly an oh6 to and its not a 500 c its a h369 just to be correct.
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 16:25
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you are dealing with Yanks my boy....an Easter Egg with a hard-on....with V tail is a C model 500....if it originally came with an olive green paint job and military radios it was an OH-6 or Loach.

But you are correct....in one way....the type certificate for the C model shows 369....the OH-6A...which this one is....being on an Experimental certificate is an OH-6A. This OH-6A you fly....which engine does it have installed?

Please explain how ice can form in clear air and very cold temperatures....no rain, snow, sleet, condensation nuclei present.
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Old 7th Dec 2004, 19:10
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Don't have a "C" model book, but the "D" has a Vne of 94kts at 10K and -10c at a weight above 2500 lbs.
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Helimark...

The C model would certainly be well below that number....thanks.
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