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Old 5th Jul 2009, 00:03
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Leave it alone!

Your log book in my view is sacred. It should be a true and correct copy of what flying experience you have. Amending its total up, down or adding types etc is a big no no.

That, I think, should also be true of your CV. It's an integrity thing and anyway why would you want to degrade your hours or experience just to get a foot in the door? Why not just explain to the employer that even though you may be 'overqualified' for the position you are still keen for these reasons.......?

Integrity is like virginity, once it's gone, it's gone!

Floats out

Last edited by floatsarmed; 5th Jul 2009 at 06:56. Reason: I got the wrong end of the stick!
 
Old 5th Jul 2009, 02:56
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The OP never suggested changing his logbook. I don't see a huge problem with putting "more than 1000 hours" or "1000+ hours" on a resume, even if the total is several thousand. It's the truth, even if slightly evasive. I'm not sure I agree with his premise that employers are looking for less time, but that's up to him. If asked during an interview for his exact total time, he has to come clean and give a more or less exact number, though.

In the US, logging time in a logbook is not mandatory, and the only time that is required to be logged is that which will be used for a rating or certificate. I haven't bothered with a logbook for many years, and if asked for my exact time I couldn't say with certainty. Once it gets over 10,000 hours it really doesn't matter much what the exact number is, and most employers here know that. In general the only people who put exact hours on a resume are those with only a thousand or so, and I think a general round number is sufficient for that purpose. It will soon be obvious whether your time is closer to 500 or 5000, although I've seen a few pilots with documented high time who flew like someone barely out of flight school. How they keep surviving I don't know.
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Old 5th Jul 2009, 03:35
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I agree with most posters--it is about integrity. I also agree with Whirls about the "OBN". We work in a small world--If I do not know an applicant personally, I can make less than 5 phone calls and find someone who I know, who does know him/her. It's kind of like the Kevin Bacon game.

Everyone who gets hired where I work, will have an evaluation flight. It is real easy to distinguish between a 300 hour pilot and a 1500 hour pilot, but not so easy to differentiate a 1500 hour and a 3000 hour pilot.

We tend to hire based upon attitude, rather than hours. I would rather hire someone with slightly lower hours and no long line time as long as they have the right attitude. I can teach you to fly a line, but at 3000 hours, I cannot teach you the right attitude towards safety and customer service---you either have it or you don't. Incidentally, the last pilot I hired had 3500 hours---NO long line/VR and NO fire/utility time, BUT he beat out 10,000 hour pilots because he showed the right attitude and ability to learn.
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