medicals??
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From: bonnie scotland
medicals??
can anyone tell me if after going for my class 2 medical,jar or faa,sitting the private course then starting down the commercial route if being qualified automatically means a class 1 medical can be given?
i have eyesight issues and have been advised by an faa doctor to just go for the class 1 straight away.
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
If you want a commercial licence, get a Class1 straight away. If you fail that, then it saves wasted money on commercial training. Under JAA, your Class 1 can lapse into a Class 2, then to renew as Class 1 as you get your commercial licence. Renewal criteria are less stringent than initial.
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From: Below Escape Velocity
The FAA doc and Whirls are both correct. At your somewhat advanced age, it is silly to shell out a cent for training until you figure out if you're physically qualified since you say you have vision issues.
Don't know what a Class 1 Medical runs in the UK, but in the U.S. I get my FAA Class 1s with ECG for about US$130. A small price to pay to prevent shelling out thousands for training you may never be able to use. And, until you hit 40, the Class 1 turns into a Class 2, as Whirls points out.
Don't know what a Class 1 Medical runs in the UK, but in the U.S. I get my FAA Class 1s with ECG for about US$130. A small price to pay to prevent shelling out thousands for training you may never be able to use. And, until you hit 40, the Class 1 turns into a Class 2, as Whirls points out.
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A JAA Class 1 initial is currently £330 (a rare example of a CAA charge going down as it was £370 when I did mine) and a day trip to Gatwick.
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From: Below Escape Velocity
Oh, my dear old 500e, go and boil your head, you silly person... I entered flying a decade earlier than heliwanab did on the old life calendar and I was referred to as being a bit "advanced" in age at that time (I paid for my training with my youth and my government footed the financial bit, AFTER they had run me through the medical mangle). I am now a decade older than he and still doing the job for a living, so it certainly CAN be done.
But... if one can't pass the medical (and our candidate apparently has some concerns on that score), it's just plain silly to shell out all the training money up front, especially at 37ish if the good poultice-walloper tells you haven't a prayer of ever earning it back.
It would be the height of dunderheadedness to fail to get a full Class 1 before signing a training contract, and it would be the height of irresponsibility to recommend to him otherwise.
But... if one can't pass the medical (and our candidate apparently has some concerns on that score), it's just plain silly to shell out all the training money up front, especially at 37ish if the good poultice-walloper tells you haven't a prayer of ever earning it back.
It would be the height of dunderheadedness to fail to get a full Class 1 before signing a training contract, and it would be the height of irresponsibility to recommend to him otherwise.

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Cut the waffle.
The only sensible advice is get the initial Class 1 medical done before you spend ANY of the tens of thousands to get your commercial licence.
This I suggest applies whoever you are. The medics can find all sorts of stuff you are not aware of.
The way things are going workwise, an insanity check would be a good idea too
The only sensible advice is get the initial Class 1 medical done before you spend ANY of the tens of thousands to get your commercial licence.
This I suggest applies whoever you are. The medics can find all sorts of stuff you are not aware of.
The way things are going workwise, an insanity check would be a good idea too
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From: bonnie scotland
um,,lifting,
sounds like a good sensible route to me.
500e sounds like a good guy(probably young too,damn it)
i certainly would want the class 1 in hand before signing on any dotted lines.
unfortunitly old age comes with investing and saving like mad to pay for the training.
so long as i get there i say....
sounds like a good sensible route to me.
500e sounds like a good guy(probably young too,damn it)
i certainly would want the class 1 in hand before signing on any dotted lines.
unfortunitly old age comes with investing and saving like mad to pay for the training.
so long as i get there i say....




so near to his maker not worth even trying then, not to encouraging to us older pilots, That is ageist I think
