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trying to catch up with you mate Spoonta
Just trying to catch up with you Mate, were you with PAE ET 2001? I was in Baucau.
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Shortage of Mi8s
Interesting thread. More to the point that I am trying to source 8 for purchase and this news is not good for business. There is now a severe shortage of Mi8-T and Mi8-MTVs due to this transaction. Also have been told that other operators in Ukraine and Russia, are now therefore reluctant to sell their stock and hold onto them in the hope they can jump onto the back of lease contracts in Iran and Afghanistan.
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Looks like the game's up: Janes reports that Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama has written to SecDef Robert Gates asking him to stop the procurement of Mi-17s for the Iraqi and Afghan militaries, saying the program has inadequate oversight and is "undefined, delayed and simply not a good use of taxpayer funds." The Iraqi procurement effort already discussed in this thread is singled out for attention, being described as "plagued by mass corruption."
Maybe Iraq can contract for support from the newly established NATO HIP Helicopter Task Force.
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Maybe Iraq can contract for support from the newly established NATO HIP Helicopter Task Force.
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with so many around, (theyr'e the most produced helicopter in the world)
one would think gettting a chance to fly one would'nt be terribly difficult, presuming you're already proficient in something similar in size or bigger and longline proficient with previous international experience. however i've been lookin and so far its like ringo star says "it dont come easy"
any suggestions or ideas would be appreciated.
one would think gettting a chance to fly one would'nt be terribly difficult, presuming you're already proficient in something similar in size or bigger and longline proficient with previous international experience. however i've been lookin and so far its like ringo star says "it dont come easy"
any suggestions or ideas would be appreciated.
I have only 2 new Mi171 units available ( not 50+, this is kind of miracle )
and tender is done, see here pls:
Metalexport wins the contract for Polish Mi-17 helicopters for Afghanistan | Shephard Group
)and tender is done, see here pls:
Metalexport wins the contract for Polish Mi-17 helicopters for Afghanistan | Shephard Group
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Pakistan (or perhaps by now ATEC) has a few going spare...
Pakistan Returns Free Helicopters to US
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Pakistan Returns Free Helicopters to US
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Update:
U.S. DoD: "We're buying 21 Mi-17s for Afghanistan. Who's interested?"
Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) & Sen. Dick Shelby (R-Ala.): "Say what?"
Sikorsky (with acknowledgement to Triumph the Insult Comic Dog): "We're gonna sue your friggin ass!"
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U.S. DoD: "We're buying 21 Mi-17s for Afghanistan. Who's interested?"
Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) & Sen. Dick Shelby (R-Ala.): "Say what?"
Sikorsky (with acknowledgement to Triumph the Insult Comic Dog): "We're gonna sue your friggin ass!"
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NAVAIR punts Afghan Mi-17 procurement to NSRWA.
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Subsequent to the issuance of this RFP, the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy pursued clarification of the process for procuring these Mi-17 aircraft pursuant to Russian laws and regulations. The Department of State has been informed by the Russian Federation Ministry of Foreign Affairs that any United States Government contract for procuring the Mi-17 aircraft for use by the Afghan Air Force cannot be conducted through civil means and must be effected only through the federal state unitary enterprise Rosoboronoeksport as a military export, a requirement that no existing awardable proposal meets.
After learning the position of the Russian Government, the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Logistics, and Technology has removed NAVAIR’s authority to continue procuring the Mi-17 aircraft. Therefore this RFP is cancelled and the Army Non-Standard Rotary Wing Program Management Office will assume program and contract management responsibilities for procurement of these Mi-17 aircraft.
After learning the position of the Russian Government, the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Logistics, and Technology has removed NAVAIR’s authority to continue procuring the Mi-17 aircraft. Therefore this RFP is cancelled and the Army Non-Standard Rotary Wing Program Management Office will assume program and contract management responsibilities for procurement of these Mi-17 aircraft.
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Looks like this procurement is coming under some rather intense scrutiny!
Exclusive: Pentagon opens criminal probe of Russian helicopter deals - News - KFGO The Mighty 790AM - Fargo Moorhead, ND
Exclusive: Pentagon opens criminal probe of Russian helicopter deals - News - KFGO The Mighty 790AM - Fargo Moorhead, ND
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Actually this was in the public domain some time ago. Both H' Data and Helicopter Int ran stories on this.it seems that Army officials were by no means squeaky clean .
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Looks like they finally caught up with this total procurement fiasco.
https://www.helicoptersmagazine.com/...-on-mi-17-7170
You can read the report here if you so desire. https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Do...o_Congress.pdf
What an utter, inept, failure. Who is it they are trying to investigate for connections to the Russians again? Of course, it will all be swept under the carpet and no-one will ever be held accountable. Just like all those Department of State S61"T"'s purchased for $14M a copy, barely flown and then disposed of surplus for pennies on the dollar. Who was the Secretary of State in charge of that department?
https://www.helicoptersmagazine.com/...-on-mi-17-7170
You can read the report here if you so desire. https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Do...o_Congress.pdf
What an utter, inept, failure. Who is it they are trying to investigate for connections to the Russians again? Of course, it will all be swept under the carpet and no-one will ever be held accountable. Just like all those Department of State S61"T"'s purchased for $14M a copy, barely flown and then disposed of surplus for pennies on the dollar. Who was the Secretary of State in charge of that department?
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Looks like they finally caught up with this total procurement fiasco.
https://www.helicoptersmagazine.com/...-on-mi-17-7170
You can read the report here if you so desire. https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Do...o_Congress.pdf
What an utter, inept, failure. Who is it they are trying to investigate for connections to the Russians again? Of course, it will all be swept under the carpet and no-one will ever be held accountable. Just like all those Department of State S61"T"'s purchased for $14M a copy, barely flown and then disposed of surplus for pennies on the dollar. Who was the Secretary of State in charge of that department?
https://www.helicoptersmagazine.com/...-on-mi-17-7170
You can read the report here if you so desire. https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Do...o_Congress.pdf
What an utter, inept, failure. Who is it they are trying to investigate for connections to the Russians again? Of course, it will all be swept under the carpet and no-one will ever be held accountable. Just like all those Department of State S61"T"'s purchased for $14M a copy, barely flown and then disposed of surplus for pennies on the dollar. Who was the Secretary of State in charge of that department?