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Old 17th May 2009, 07:14
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139 incident

I thought the Perenco 139 upset had been missed on here ?Aircraft shutdown offshore when pilot couldnt pull up the lever thingy between the seats - something to do with someone leaving something in the aircraft whilst it was in the garage being serviced perhaps???Nice mechanic had to put on clean overalls and go offshore to remove said object before pilot flew them all home for tea.Surprisingly Perenco werent too happy and stopped flying with N.Denes aircraft. Not sure if they have plucked up courage and are back with them again???BG
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Old 17th May 2009, 09:35
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One fact is for sure looks like a CHC BASHER !!! Bad History there somewhere ??
Aside the management, and the external consultancy company puppet masters that have recently joined, show me one CHC supporter then, as the Pilots, engineers and ops staff as well as many customers no longer seem keen!

Bad history?? More like Bad present day actually!
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Old 17th May 2009, 12:31
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Manpower and strike action will always win over penny pinching management.

Sort it out chaps, not good for either side.
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Old 17th May 2009, 16:03
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Don't go that route

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A better move to keep the workforce happy would surely be to honour existing employees their right to the FSP and all new employees a money purchase only option.
That is exactly what happened at Bristow. Several years later, they decided to scrap the DB scheme for the old hands. Surprise, surprise, there was not much support from the newbies when it came to defending the scheme.

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Old 18th May 2009, 09:09
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Did i hear correctly that the unions in CHC Netherlands recently resorted to strike action? What was the outcome of that?


I believe it was the ground crew only, and a new CLA was accepted for 1 year.
The pilots have yet to negotiate.
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Old 18th May 2009, 11:11
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Manpower and strike action will always win over penny pinching management.
I don't think you'll find many miners claiming a win.

A strike will be hugely damaging for the reputation of CHC and its pilots. Lets hope it can be resolved without wasting wood on banners and braziers.
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Old 3rd Jun 2009, 07:53
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Ballot papers for industrial action now out. Hope you guys can hold the line, as for sure everyone else in the oil patch will feel the consequences.
Best of luck
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Old 3rd Jun 2009, 16:19
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Dont think ABZ would take any notice if 'any' base in the SNS decided to take industrial action ? Do you ?
Total waste of time and maybe loss of jobs, IMHO
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Old 14th Jun 2009, 04:22
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For the management of CHC Scotia to advise the workforce that the Final Salary Pensions are up the spout just as they are holding a ballot for strike action over their equal time roster is hard to comprehend. Either they are not the brightest or are determined to force the issue to the bitter end where everybody, company, CHC pilots and the rest of us in the industry will be losers.
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Old 14th Jun 2009, 08:41
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We need to think very carefully about strike action. Remember what happen to the pilots who took strike action in GOM, and the airline pilots downunder in the late eighties. No winners there.

Oil companies would not hesitate to change companies if required, even if it involves some short term pain in service delivery.

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Old 14th Jun 2009, 08:55
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FSP to be withdrawn from the end of August in CHC. As someone mentioned above, not the best time to be telling the workforce this news. Are management blinkered? Can't they see the bigger picture?

Oil companies may change the service provider but the pilots will, as usual, move to where the work is. It would seem that CHC have absolutely no respect for their pilots. As for the roster issues, a little bird tells me the company are willing to talk to the pilots again and see if something can be sorted out.
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Old 14th Jun 2009, 10:18
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Are you sure this wasn't always a plan to get rid of the Final Salary Pension ??

Tell them you're gonna take away the Equal Time Roster, then announce that the FSP is going as well. Get everyone worked up, then when its all about to hit the fan, suggest that you might be able to give back the equal time roster and everyone feels more agreeable.

Its an old trick wartime doctors used when they needed to take someone's leg off. Tell them they need both legs removed, then once the full horror has had time to bed in, advise that they might get away with just the one, and suddenly things don't seem so bad !
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Surley now this is a case of no repect for the entire CHC workforce who are in FSP, perhaps the ballot should be expanded
Letter on the mat with no warning, Classic tactics !!!!!!!
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Old 14th Jun 2009, 14:22
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Genst (and Ladies) the FSP was removed some 4 years ago. What we have in place is a DBS (Defined Benefit Scheme) based on a notional salary increasing in a controlled fashion each year. This step was taken to try and reduce the risks shouldered by the Company.

I an going to an Industrial Meeting tonight at ABZ and will be wanting to take action over the removal of the DBS. I am sure all my collegues are of the same mind.

What galls me most is the utter stupidity of the management. If they remove the scheme it is not available to them either. They seem adept at putting managers into place who continually commit commercial, industrial and persoal suicide in same miguided notion that they must save money at all costs.
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Old 24th Jun 2009, 19:21
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CHC FSP and Roster

Any info on how CHC scotia pilots are responding to the change in working conditions that seem to be being imposed on them?

Has there been a ballot and what was the result if there was?

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Old 24th Jun 2009, 20:16
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These working conditions are shit. I am exhausted!! Change on the horizon, thank god.
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Old 24th Jun 2009, 21:13
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A little bird tells me that the pilots were balloted on Industrial action and they virtually all said yes. Unfortunately, this has led nowhere, the company appear to be using delaying tactics again and from what I was told, even though the ballot result was last week, no-one has been told if the company were given their 7-day notice period. If so, strike action could start as early as Friday coming. It is without doubt that the management will be trying to string their decision out as long as possible and then this smokescreen (because that's what this is) will clear away and then the 'FSP' will be lost and the employees just content to get their roster back in place.
I only heard this from a 3rd party so don't shoot the messenger.
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Old 25th Jun 2009, 08:36
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I heard a rumour more meetings were going on this week, somebody must know more by now.

do you think any strike would just be up here, or spread around the country as well
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Old 28th Jun 2009, 13:33
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Any truth in the rumour that a strike next Saturday is on the horizon? And if this is the case why pick the quietest day of the week to do it?
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Any truth in the rumour that a strike next Saturday is on the horizon? And if this is the case why pick the quietest day of the week to do it?
'Cause it's 4th July and we've all been invited to an 'Independence Day' party by some American friends.
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