All Ireland Air Ambulance - publicity launch
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Amazing how the truth from an engineer or pilot or some sales pitch bloke/woman who works for the company gets distorted. It is all competion out there we all know that, but good grief behave children we need more air ambos in UK/Eire, so FFS help each other out instead of slagging. There is enough room/money/aircraft/people/engineers/paramedics/doctors/contracts/ to have at least one air ambo for each county in GB/NI/IRE .In fact I think it is pretty poor that there is not.
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air ambulance for ireland -landing problems
I am not a pilot and am delighted at the thought of a proper air ambulance service but the difficulty people forget is landing patients at the hospital. The most urgent example is Beaumont Hospital which for information is the national neurosurgical or head and spinal injury hospital for Southern Ireland which does NOT have a landing pad. Patients have to go to dublin airport and risk a second transfer by ambulance. I have had the honour of being in a R-44 which did land in a car-park on the hospital site but no pad!!!!
Another major hospital, the Mater has no helicopter access either because it is too close to Mountjoy prison and there was a minor problem of a helicopter "take-away" many years ago which put and end to that!!!!!
So until beaumont can get a proper pad the usefulness of such a service is sadly limited.
Another major hospital, the Mater has no helicopter access either because it is too close to Mountjoy prison and there was a minor problem of a helicopter "take-away" many years ago which put and end to that!!!!!
So until beaumont can get a proper pad the usefulness of such a service is sadly limited.
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Is there any hospitals down south with pads? I know some in the north have anyway, my local hospital uses the car park for a landing pad but since its only the S-61 that comes in shes to big for the car park so it means they got to land in the football grounds a short distance away and meet the ambulance crews.
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KPD - You have flagged up a very important point. There is a need to get hospitals / health authorities / ambulance services together to come up with landing sites at the hospitals. A fast transfer is good, docs and paramedics on scene are good, but it can all be ruined if the receiving hospital does not have a group 'a' pad within a trolley push of the resus room(s). I am sure every AA crewmember will be able to reel off a half dozen local hospitals and trauma centres that need to use an ambulance to move the patient 'round the corner' from whichever piece of grass has been nominated as the Hospital landing site. How many crews need to get keys to open locked gates? How many sites have to have football players cleared away? how many need security to ensure public are kept safely away? etc etc. It is an obvious glitch in the smooth transfer of casualty to resus and one which has been overlooked for many years. Ooops just fallen of my soap box!
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Is there any hospitals down south with pads?
Roof top pads would be illegal in Ireland.
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"Roof top pads would be illegal in Ireland"
Unless your desperate for a bit of shopping
[Man in court after going shopping in helicopter - Local & National, News - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk
Unless your desperate for a bit of shopping
[Man in court after going shopping in helicopter - Local & National, News - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk
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Roof-Top Helipads Are Illegal In Ireland????
Why would roof-top pads be illegal in Ireland?
Excuse my ignorance but I don't understand why they are illegal......can anyone help please?
Thanks.
Excuse my ignorance but I don't understand why they are illegal......can anyone help please?
Thanks.
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no idea about roof-top pads being legal or illegal in ireland-seem to be fine in uk so cant see the problem. confirm definitely pad in University College Hospital Galway.
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Good job by the mods for clearing up any confusion on this thread.
Now, how is the All Ireland Air Ambulance fund raising coming along? They must be pretty close to raising the 300k at this stage.
Now, how is the All Ireland Air Ambulance fund raising coming along? They must be pretty close to raising the 300k at this stage.
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All Ireland Air Ambulance
Hi, I was just having a look on the AIAA website and it mentions that there are plans to roll out two aircraft by March 2010. Although it says bases have not been chosen I was wondering if anyone could give me any information on which operator has the contractor and if there are any rumours of where the bases may be.
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I heard a radio interview with the main guy a few weeks ago, they are aiming to have 2 BO-105's, one based at Kerry Airport, the other based in Ballybofey, Co. Donegal. They are looking to be up and running for March 2010. Day VFR flights only though. Best of luck to them all the same.
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Just a quick update on this All Ireland Air Ambulance project:
So the latest I have heard is that the original founder of this scheme, Derek Rowe, has now walked away from the project and is looking into setting up an Irish 'Childrens Air Ambulance' using an EC-135 and a Sikorsky S-92.
The original launch date for the AIAA was supposed to be March 2010. This information has now been pulled from the website, along with the fundraising bar that at one point had over 185,000 euros raised.
Does anybody know if the AIAA has a launch date set for operations? They have been collecting money for a few years now, and still no air ambulance.
The public have been pretty patient and supportive so far, I think the AIAA ought to clarify their mission statement and explain exactly what is going on with the project and why they have cancelled the launch date without any explanation.
I had previously defended the AIAA on another thread when they were being confused with the Irish Air Ambulance (in Northern Ireland), maybe they are pretty similar after all.
Does anybody know if the AIAA has:
1. Any previous Air Ambulance or Helicopter operations experience?
2. Any medical director appointed?
3. Any helicopters secured for operations?
4. Any company operating procedures manual?
5. Any base of operations, either confirmed or proposed?
6. Have they the backing of the HSE or PHECC organisations?
7. Do they intend to use HSE paramedics, or privately trained?
8. Are the directors paying themselves a wage, and if so, how much?
9. Any launch date set?
As I say, I had previously defended the project and I still think the idea of an Air Ambulance would be a great thing, but the handling of the entire project so far can be summed up in one word-amateurish.
So the latest I have heard is that the original founder of this scheme, Derek Rowe, has now walked away from the project and is looking into setting up an Irish 'Childrens Air Ambulance' using an EC-135 and a Sikorsky S-92.
The original launch date for the AIAA was supposed to be March 2010. This information has now been pulled from the website, along with the fundraising bar that at one point had over 185,000 euros raised.
Does anybody know if the AIAA has a launch date set for operations? They have been collecting money for a few years now, and still no air ambulance.
The public have been pretty patient and supportive so far, I think the AIAA ought to clarify their mission statement and explain exactly what is going on with the project and why they have cancelled the launch date without any explanation.
I had previously defended the AIAA on another thread when they were being confused with the Irish Air Ambulance (in Northern Ireland), maybe they are pretty similar after all.
Does anybody know if the AIAA has:
1. Any previous Air Ambulance or Helicopter operations experience?
2. Any medical director appointed?
3. Any helicopters secured for operations?
4. Any company operating procedures manual?
5. Any base of operations, either confirmed or proposed?
6. Have they the backing of the HSE or PHECC organisations?
7. Do they intend to use HSE paramedics, or privately trained?
8. Are the directors paying themselves a wage, and if so, how much?
9. Any launch date set?
As I say, I had previously defended the project and I still think the idea of an Air Ambulance would be a great thing, but the handling of the entire project so far can be summed up in one word-amateurish.
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Yeah, right. And S-92 for Children s hospital. something must be wrong in that project. Hey, C'mon.
Seriously though, civvies really shouldn't get involved in things they know nothing about. Raise funds, fine. But leave the proper decision making to informed individuals.
does anybody know the identity of the bo105 being used? I did hear an ex-lightohuse chopper EI-LIT a bolkow was going to become an air ambulance?
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I see, so they do not have anything currently.?
Thanks for that.
Thanks for that.
And from what I can see, they have no intention of getting anything in the future either....
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Latest: Derek Rowe replaced as chairman, intends to set up rival Air Ambulance
Air ambulance charity founder quits to set up rival operation - The Irish Times - Wed, Aug 18, 2010
As for the latest developments, this doesn't surprise me one bit. See my previous posts for my opinion of the operation so far.
From what I can see, the All Ireland Air Ambulance needs a serious injection of professional public relations management.
The website has been down for the last few months...seriously guys, get your act together. Please keep people informed of developments, it isn't much to ask! Is it any wonder people are starting to doubt this organisation when the public are being kept in the dark?
As for the newly proposed People's Children's Air Ambulance to be set up by Derek Rowe...I will believe it when I see it. This is all getting a bit surreal.
As for the latest developments, this doesn't surprise me one bit. See my previous posts for my opinion of the operation so far.
From what I can see, the All Ireland Air Ambulance needs a serious injection of professional public relations management.
The website has been down for the last few months...seriously guys, get your act together. Please keep people informed of developments, it isn't much to ask! Is it any wonder people are starting to doubt this organisation when the public are being kept in the dark?
As for the newly proposed People's Children's Air Ambulance to be set up by Derek Rowe...I will believe it when I see it. This is all getting a bit surreal.
