Rocker Tommy Lee's Helicopter Forced to Land by Police
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Damn it - why do I never get passengers like that. All mine are always over 100kg and dressed in orange suits, which really doesn't do it for me, and they don't even give me so much as a "thank-you", let alone a suction de-fuel!
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Nothing to do with prudish English morals, just good manners and common sense. FWIW, there is only one English moderator here; it's a world wide site, and world wide manners will prevail.
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Interesting subject this one...
I too have taught many Deputies how to fly and still have regular contact with them.
Here is some examples that may question some of that authority.
One of them was if I recall right, In Vero Beach a Sheriff helicopter forced another helicopter to land and then gave them a ticket for disturbing the piece right there on the runway????
Another is having police put a TFR in place??? I understand the need to keep people away from the area, especially around 4 to 6 hundred feet. But to try and bust people for flying through a TFR that was put up by the police at that time with out proper notification to the flying community is absurd.
Unfortunately you will always have that one police officer that thinks he is god almighty himself. But in general for the most I think Police in the aviation units are professional and I am glad they get involved with helping police the sky's..... As long as they do not get out of hand with the "control freak" issues. After all some Police officers have their own interpretation of air laws.
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I too have taught many Deputies how to fly and still have regular contact with them.
Here is some examples that may question some of that authority.
One of them was if I recall right, In Vero Beach a Sheriff helicopter forced another helicopter to land and then gave them a ticket for disturbing the piece right there on the runway????
Another is having police put a TFR in place??? I understand the need to keep people away from the area, especially around 4 to 6 hundred feet. But to try and bust people for flying through a TFR that was put up by the police at that time with out proper notification to the flying community is absurd.
Unfortunately you will always have that one police officer that thinks he is god almighty himself. But in general for the most I think Police in the aviation units are professional and I am glad they get involved with helping police the sky's..... As long as they do not get out of hand with the "control freak" issues. After all some Police officers have their own interpretation of air laws.
DT
Why is it I am not surprised this turned to "smut and porn".....seems commonplace to most any pilot/engineer tea room conversations I have heard over forty years of helicopter flying. Usually it only takes about 37 seconds for that to happen however.
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What seems to be fogotten is that all municipalities have laws that duplicate federal laws in many ways New York and many other states have Aviation Laws under the General Business Law which empowers local law enforcement personel to make arrests for low flights and reckless behavior. And, by the way, State Law enforcement personel can make an arrest under federal law, especially if there is no state or local statute that covers it... Any law enforcement person of any juristiction can always hang his hat on the "reckless" clause. There are several culpable mental states, ie; knowingly, recklessly, with intent to, with a depraved indifferance to human life, etc. that is part of just about every Penal Code imaginable. All that a police officer has to witness is any of these culpable mental states or actions and he can make it fit any penal code...for example; He operated the aircraft in a reckless manner, with a depraved indifferance to human life flying low over the heavily populated beach. The engine quite and he struck and killed a sunbather and subsequently is charged with crimaly neglogent homicide...why are we so paranoid anyway. Keep your head outside and not up your blind spot and you won't be bothered
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Head Pilot looses license..
GARDENA, Calif.—A judge says a commercial helicopter pilot videotaped in a sex act while flying over San Diego committed gross negligence and cannot have his license back.
After a three-hour hearing Tuesday, National Transportation Safety Board administrative law Judge William R. Mullins upheld a Federal Aviation Administration order revoking the license of David Martz.
Martz had no comment after the ruling.
A passenger was videotaping when Martz let an adult film actress perform a sex act on him during the May 20, 2005, flight, and an edited version eventually became public.
The judge watched the unedited tape in chambers and took testimony before his decision.
Martz testified that his actions weren't bright and he's much more responsible now.
...what a blow.
After a three-hour hearing Tuesday, National Transportation Safety Board administrative law Judge William R. Mullins upheld a Federal Aviation Administration order revoking the license of David Martz.
Martz had no comment after the ruling.
A passenger was videotaping when Martz let an adult film actress perform a sex act on him during the May 20, 2005, flight, and an edited version eventually became public.
The judge watched the unedited tape in chambers and took testimony before his decision.
Martz testified that his actions weren't bright and he's much more responsible now.
...what a blow.
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SAN DIEGO -- An explicit video shot in a helicopter -- and the pilot involved -- has made local and national headlines.
Now San Diego pilot David Martz is publically admitting his mistake.
"I'm sorry about this entire event … I have rehabilitated myself," Martz told 10News reporter Juliette Vara.
The Federal Aviation Administration disagreed with Martz's claim, and revoked his pilot's license after a video with him engaging in sexual acts with an adult film star surfaced.
"At no time did I endanger anyone's safety on the ground," said Martz.
Vara asked Martz, "The FAA said you were careless and reckless. How do you defend yourself?"
"If there was any kind of emergency, I could've handled it … the video shows I was straight and narrow, and a great distance between another aircraft…," said Martz.
Martz showed 10News that his hand never left the helicopter's main controller.
"Is it fair to say you were preoccupied?" asked Vara.
Martz replied, "No, no, I was not preoccupied. I was flying the machine … that was my priority. Safety first…"
To some it might be easy for Martz to say now, but hard for many who have seen the video to believe.
"I've hurt my family, my friends; I wasn't brought up to be in a helicopter engaging in acts like that," said Martz.
Martz has been a pilot since 1982 and is known as the pilot for celebrities including musician Tommy Lee.
This is the fifth time Martz's license has been revoked or suspended, Vara reported.
He has appealed the most recent case, and will know within 50 days if his license will be reinstated or not.
10 News Article
Now San Diego pilot David Martz is publically admitting his mistake.
"I'm sorry about this entire event … I have rehabilitated myself," Martz told 10News reporter Juliette Vara.
The Federal Aviation Administration disagreed with Martz's claim, and revoked his pilot's license after a video with him engaging in sexual acts with an adult film star surfaced.
"At no time did I endanger anyone's safety on the ground," said Martz.
Vara asked Martz, "The FAA said you were careless and reckless. How do you defend yourself?"
"If there was any kind of emergency, I could've handled it … the video shows I was straight and narrow, and a great distance between another aircraft…," said Martz.
Martz showed 10News that his hand never left the helicopter's main controller.
"Is it fair to say you were preoccupied?" asked Vara.
Martz replied, "No, no, I was not preoccupied. I was flying the machine … that was my priority. Safety first…"
To some it might be easy for Martz to say now, but hard for many who have seen the video to believe.
"I've hurt my family, my friends; I wasn't brought up to be in a helicopter engaging in acts like that," said Martz.
Martz has been a pilot since 1982 and is known as the pilot for celebrities including musician Tommy Lee.
This is the fifth time Martz's license has been revoked or suspended, Vara reported.
He has appealed the most recent case, and will know within 50 days if his license will be reinstated or not.
10 News Article
Glad you asked:
Pilot Loses Appeal To Regain Certificate After In-Cockpit Sex
Helicopter pilot David Keith Martz, 52, this week lost his appeal to regain his certificate, which he lost after a video surfaced that allegedly shows him having sex with a Swedish adult film actress while flying a helicopter over San Diego. Martz argued that since his hands never left the controls during the encounter that he was not being "careless or reckless," and he has also said that he knows his actions were unwise and he's more responsible now, according to the Associated Press. The NTSB judge who heard his appeal -- and watched the unedited video of the notorious 2005 event in his chambers -- was apparently not impressed. Judge William Mullins upheld the FAA order revoking Martz's right to fly after a hearing on Tuesday in Gardena, Calif. Martz had no comment after the proceeding. His certificate has been revoked or suspended several times in the past, for incidents such as landing a helicopter on a Hollywood street to pick up a rock star, flying too low over a residential neighborhood, landing too close to a military base, and flying with damage to his helicopter.
Helicopter pilot David Keith Martz, 52, this week lost his appeal to regain his certificate, which he lost after a video surfaced that allegedly shows him having sex with a Swedish adult film actress while flying a helicopter over San Diego. Martz argued that since his hands never left the controls during the encounter that he was not being "careless or reckless," and he has also said that he knows his actions were unwise and he's more responsible now, according to the Associated Press. The NTSB judge who heard his appeal -- and watched the unedited video of the notorious 2005 event in his chambers -- was apparently not impressed. Judge William Mullins upheld the FAA order revoking Martz's right to fly after a hearing on Tuesday in Gardena, Calif. Martz had no comment after the proceeding. His certificate has been revoked or suspended several times in the past, for incidents such as landing a helicopter on a Hollywood street to pick up a rock star, flying too low over a residential neighborhood, landing too close to a military base, and flying with damage to his helicopter.
