Taking bets on how many FTO's and AOC's will be lost.
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I've got to admit - I often wonder how the very small operators such as EBG Helicopter, AV8 Helicopters and Thurston, etc... keep on surviving considering they are FTO/TRO/charter (mainly with SE) ops only?
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All depends on the volume of work taken
That depends on the quality / price and marketing
That depends on management, caliber of owners / machine, and the student base
I expect that almost everyone has some reduction / shrinkage, but what we are interested in is both relative performance of the business and how close to "cash exhaustion" (the usual reason for bankrupcy) the business comes. You may find that some of the smaller operators did better last year comparatively than some of the larger operators (less costs, more personal relationship directly with owners & students, nimbler on their feet to diversify offerings which still sell). You may also be suprised to find that a number of the smaller operators had less risky business models as their fixed cost exposure is lower.
Enough speculation! Anyone want to post "fact" from their operation?
That depends on the quality / price and marketing
That depends on management, caliber of owners / machine, and the student base
I expect that almost everyone has some reduction / shrinkage, but what we are interested in is both relative performance of the business and how close to "cash exhaustion" (the usual reason for bankrupcy) the business comes. You may find that some of the smaller operators did better last year comparatively than some of the larger operators (less costs, more personal relationship directly with owners & students, nimbler on their feet to diversify offerings which still sell). You may also be suprised to find that a number of the smaller operators had less risky business models as their fixed cost exposure is lower.
Enough speculation! Anyone want to post "fact" from their operation?
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fluffy might be depressing but i think his prediction was pretty good,a few examples i can think off are: premiair have turned into a slow moving train wreck, cabair have gone completely, anyone who has been to cranfield recently must be surprised by how quiet it is, i was at elstree last week and saw nothing going on at all on a nice good weather day.
the single engine charter market appears to be well down still and i bet twin charter is too although the companies involved wont admit it of course.
its quite a hard sell these days to convince someone that spending a £100k on flight training is a good idea, especially since we have lovely EASA now taking away your type ratings when 3 years expired.
the single engine charter market appears to be well down still and i bet twin charter is too although the companies involved wont admit it of course.
its quite a hard sell these days to convince someone that spending a £100k on flight training is a good idea, especially since we have lovely EASA now taking away your type ratings when 3 years expired.
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