Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Rotorheads
Reload this Page >

AS 350 hover question

Wikiposts
Search
Rotorheads A haven for helicopter professionals to discuss the things that affect them

AS 350 hover question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 3rd Jan 2009, 06:07
  #21 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: australia
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
saw the light,
absolutely spot on.
xxxchopperpilot is offline  
Old 3rd Jan 2009, 06:11
  #22 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: australia
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Therefore the AS-350 has a fully articulated main rotor "system"
xxxchopperpilot is offline  
Old 3rd Jan 2009, 07:59
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Just west of here
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Kinda like this.

"A fully articulated rotor system usually consists of three or more rotor blades. The blades are allowed to flap, feather, and lead or lag independently of each other. Each rotor blade is attached to the rotor hub by a horizontal hinge, called the flapping hinge (Starflex arm) , which permits the blades to flap up and down. Each blade can move up and down independently of the others. The flapping hinge may be located at varying distances from the rotor hub, and there may be more than one. The position is chosen by each manufacturer, primarily with regard to stability and control.

Each rotor blade is also attached to the hub by a vertical hinge (Thrust bearing), called a drag or lag hinge, that permits each blade, independently of the others, to move back and forth in the plane of the rotor disc. Dampers (Frequency adapters) are normally incorporated in the design of this type of rotor system to prevent excessive motion about the drag hinge. The purpose of the drag hinge and dampers is to absorb the acceleration and deceleration of the rotor blades.

The blades of a fully articulated rotor can also be feathered, or rotated about their span-wise axis. (Thrust bearing & self-aligning bearing mounted within the frequency adapter) To put it more simply, feathering means the changing of the pitch angle of the rotor blades."

WRL
What Red Line? is offline  
Old 3rd Jan 2009, 13:18
  #24 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Philadelphia PA
Age: 73
Posts: 1,835
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Having taught a lot of flight test classes on rotor heads, I'm inclined to say that an elastomeric head is not fully articulated, as the articulation part means that while the blades are free to move, the hinges do not allow moments to be passed across the hinge.
An elastomeric bearing will allow the blades some limited movement, but it will also allow moments to be transferred from the blade to the head. They probably deserve their own designation - all the advantages of the articulated head, with few of the maintenance headaches, and some of the benefits of the rigid head without the issues of exotic metals.
Shawn Coyle is offline  
Old 3rd Jan 2009, 15:42
  #25 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: After all, what’s more important than proving to someone on the internet that they’re wrong? - Manson
Posts: 1,847
Received 56 Likes on 37 Posts
Really..........?

WRL,



the flapping hinge (Starflex arm)
The Starflex is the method used for the load path for the lead/lag damper (frequency adapter) to reference to the head. As you can see it is flexible in the flapping plane but NOT in the lead/lag plane or feathering plane. It is not the flapping hinge. That is in the spherical bearing.




(Thrust bearing & self-aligning bearing mounted within the frequency adapter)
There is no thrust bearing in the frequency adapter (lead/lag damper, the brown one on the lefthand end of the sleeves in the photo and vice versa in the images). There is a self aligning feathering bearing.

The thrust bearing for want of a word is the spherical bearing which is basically a pile of steel spherical cups separated by elastomer (rubber) elements. This bearing allows feather and flap and lead/lag. (The big black one on the righthand end of the sleeves in the photo and vice versa in the images .) The rubber elements are very thin so that failure of one will be not catastrophic as it would be if it were one big lump of rubber.

RVDT is offline  
Old 3rd Jan 2009, 16:26
  #26 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Long Term...

I flew news down there for a while. It was an Astar B2, and I recall the longest I had to remain in one place was for the Scott Peterson trial. It was the day the verdict was coming down, so they had us fly over the couthouse in San Mateo. I left the Hayward airport, which is about 5 minutes away on the other side of the bay with a full tank of fuel. We stayed on site until I was out of gas and needed to return....which was almost 3 hours later.
Air2X is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.