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Old 30th Jun 2013, 15:58
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Thank you both. We are currently looking at used machines between 1,000-2000 hrs. Unfortunately the T2 would put us out of our price range. We originally looked at EC120s, but quickly found out 4 pax, full fuel, and some bags simply wasn't going to happen. So the B4 already seems like a big upgrade in power, size, and price! But maybe not so much speed? Unless smooth flight is possible at 120 knts?

And yes, we too kinda see 350 NM as stretching the EC130's range, not just in fuel but comfort. We figured a "convenience stop" would be necessary on trips of those lengths. The majority of the time, however, we would be operating between 80-150 NM.
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Old 1st Jul 2013, 04:54
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The 130 will give you smooth flight at 120kts if she is in good mechanical condition ie not excessive swashplate play or play on the starflex spherical bearings etc. and her balancing is done correctly. Often we do balancing at low all up weight which does not give good results due the hammers under the floor tuned for 70%Mauw and above. The 130 here is operated hot and high with looong flight at EMS weights without issue. The company also have 119's which can not operate where the 130's are used. Best cruise speed is pull max cont power, then subtract 10% from the torque at max cont regardless whether torque is the limit and fly her at that torque minus the 10%. Also have a good look at your C of G chart and optimise it by adding or subtracting weights in the tail-you will be surprised how big an effect it has on the vibration level. If you get one with the AFS or FDC barrier filter, make sure you have a spare filter as the filter if not maintained correctly affects the Arriel ram airflow big time thus perf. Maintenance on them is low andceasy especially the fenestron.
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Old 1st Jul 2013, 12:56
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The 119 can't operate where the 130 is used? Why is that? Is it a cabin size thing??
I thought the 119 was faster with longer legs and more power than the 130? But with a smaller cabin. Well, long and narrow instead of shorter and wider.
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Old 22nd Mar 2014, 22:22
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EC130T2

What are the manufacturer approved door off flight configuration for the EC130T2, and the limitations associated while flying....don't have access to a flight manual and am doing a little research.
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Old 23rd Mar 2014, 00:39
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Hi,

I'm just wondering if anyone could please help me out, I'm looking for an average fuel burn per hour at SL for the 119 and also if anyone was able to tell me what the usual per hour charter price would be.

Thanks in advance
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