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Helicopter Crash In Bettystown Ireland

Old 19th Sep 2008, 10:47
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Might aswel add my 2 cents..

Ive watched it a few times now and it looks to me the retreating blades have clipped something.. The aircraft banks to the left very quickly before yawing into a spin!
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 10:49
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Picture of the Helicopter



Crashed and exploded at 1630 18 Sep 2008. It is just in between the house in the background and a school. The carpark that the Heli is half in had been full of kids just one hour earlier. and is right in the centre of the village. The quick thinking school caretaker pulled the pilot out to safety and he only got minor injuries, two other people were hurt in the incident. Lucky Escape or what
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 10:52
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Some of the lamp posts in the area where heli was landing also have cctv cameras, probably a lot more footage out there.The Sky footage I would think will be of big help to the AAIU. Also, by the look of the CCTV footage there are no shortage of eye witnesses to the accident.
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 11:03
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Deffo PP

It will be the talk of meath for the next week anyway.. The Residents will become ''Helicopter Experts'' in the pub tonight after a few guinness on what happened
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 11:22
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I think I will stay quiet on this one and see what happens.

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Old 19th Sep 2008, 12:28
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whatsarunaway,



http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/P4190012.jpg

Was it you flying? Aren't you connected with this aircraft?

If you were, can you pick my lottery numbers for tonight?

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Old 19th Sep 2008, 12:38
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winning one lottery is enough for the pilot don't you think?
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 12:55
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Nah,
i was flying that machine up to about five months ago. spent four happy
years flying her. But for reasons unknown to me they decided to get a
different pilot. Im not going to rant, just happy nobody was hurt.

FNW thats me flying in the photo infront of the hangar wheels up for a photo
shoot,before it was re-registered to N399BH, and before anyone gives out, i was on my own and was in hover at 48
percent tq so engine failure would have had time to put wheels down and
land without going oei. what a cool machine.


RIP sn760311 N89WC/N399BH
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 13:02
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Lets not turn this into a mud slinging match. Let AAIU do their job and hopefully we can all learn a lesson from the outcome.
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 13:04
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agreed! Must have been nice to fly though, lovely machine
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 13:33
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Awsome shot..

Dam thats a beautiful machine..

FNW.. Is she a C model like haugheys? I hear hes looking a pilot to fly his ship!
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 13:36
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Maxvne,

The CCTV doesn't seem to support the explanation offered.

You know what they say "Pay peanuts..........."

Glad the guy was already.

Biz.
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 13:39
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Davy07,

No its was a B model.

Haughey's two new pilots have only recently finished their type ratings so be surprised if they are leaving so soon with a big bond hanging over them. But it's a funny old world!

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Old 19th Sep 2008, 14:05
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Davy07.............Look even closer at the Sky Video and you see debris coming from the TR, would also explain the sudden yaw.
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 16:30
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Having studied the photo of the burned out wreckage on post no.45 I firmly believe the owner of the house in the background will end up with a serious damp problem around the his window and in the single-storey extension if he doesn't get his guttering cleaned out! JJ
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 16:32
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If it wasnít for passengers

If it wasnít for passengers I reckon a high percentage of accidents wouldnít happen.
While I sympathise with the pilot involved and he must be going through a tough time in his head.

The following is in my opinion the sequence of events that might of happened.
And Iím sure most pilots could relate to it.

Got the call to collect Mr X in Dundalk and drop to Bettystown
When he asked where he would land he was told that he owned a hotel down there and plenty of helicopters landed at this site before.
Pilot makes his approach and decides that the site is to tight and drops the passenger on the beach.
Now heís left with the problem how will I collect them?
After the passenger has departed he decides that he will try one more approach into the hotel.
The video tells the rest.

Before ye have a go at me and tell me to wait for the report
I donít believe that the above problems that we all experience in the corporate environment will be addressed.

The problem being that sometimes we let passengers dictate our actions.
If a pilot turned around to his passenger (who for example is a developer) and told him how to build houses.
The pilot would be told politely to stick to flying.

The most important thing is not to let the passengers dictate the pace.
It has happened to me and I have fallen into the trap of being dictated to.

While I am sure the Air Accident will do a professional job within their remit.

The question still remains.
Why do pilots put themselves under so much pressure and have passengers determine the outcome ?

I know that the pilot has the final call but I believe sometimes passengers are just as much to blame.
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 17:54
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The above scenario is possible. The passengers on board had been a property developer and the hotel owner. They were to hold their meeting in Dublin but the pilot had not been advised of this and had no flight plan. He dropped them on the beach but was to wait for them to finish the meeting. He didn't wish to remain on the beach and might have been advised to park it in the hotel car park. However, anyone in this position might have thought twice before trying to manoever between two buildings, little space and aerial wires and lamposts. The pilot should not have entered this area. Perhaps he was under pressure and/or inexperienced but his training and common sense should have told him otherwise. I appreciate none us know for sure what happened and that hindsight is great but at the end of the day he endangered many lives by doing what he did. If it is a case of engine trouble then that just questions his reasons for moving towards the village and not remain over a quiet unpopulated beach! BTW the first impact was his rudder hitting a lampost which in turn caused yaw, dip and crash.
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 18:17
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Bond

Floater,

What's a big bond ?
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 18:40
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Miracle escape in helicopter inferno - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

Picture of landing site from above.
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 18:52
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Don't you just love that? An onboard oxygen bottle exploded. Trust the media. What was that bottle for, ops over 10k'?
From above, that landing site looks tighter than a tight thing, even in a robbie, never mind a 76.

Anyone know the pilot or his background?
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