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Yeah but he's going to want to bring all the furniture, not just the suite! 
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UK wants you!
FYI
What is the highly skilled worker category?
The highly skilled worker category is designed to allow highly skilled people to come to the United Kingdom to look for work or self-employment opportunities.
Who can apply as a highly skilled worker?
Unlike our work permits (soon to be replaced by sponsored skilled workers - tier 2), you do not need a job offer to apply under the highly skilled worker category. When you apply you are awarded points based on your qualifications, previous earnings, United Kingdom experience, age, English language skills, and available maintenance (funds).
What is the highly skilled worker category?
The highly skilled worker category is designed to allow highly skilled people to come to the United Kingdom to look for work or self-employment opportunities.
Who can apply as a highly skilled worker?
Unlike our work permits (soon to be replaced by sponsored skilled workers - tier 2), you do not need a job offer to apply under the highly skilled worker category. When you apply you are awarded points based on your qualifications, previous earnings, United Kingdom experience, age, English language skills, and available maintenance (funds).
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Stay in the US is my advice. I'm about to move to the US (CT) and life there seems much better
Having written a harder exam does not make a better pilot. More knowledge does not necessarily make a better pilot.
! But I still believe knowledge is more than half the battle to stay safe in this business. You know the saying "A superiour pilot uses his superiour knowledge to stay out of situations where his superiour skills are required to get out of"Just my thoughts! Not that anyone asked for them, but you're getting them anyway
!!Lt. Kije, You've got a good 6-9 months study ahead of you before you'll get to fly in the UK. Unfortunately sad but true. I do think the standard of living is higher though, so you may find that it's worth it.
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Aw C'mon! C'MON!!! You have had 6 (six) tail rotor failures?!? And several engine failures? All in 3,700 hours?!?!?
The only way I would believe that is if you were flying a Rotorway Shark built out of driftwood by a retarded monkey.
Seriously, many people will never have even a single catastrophic component failure in the course of an entire career. Those that, by their own admission, fly 'junk' helicopters may up the odds somewhat but not to the point of having a calamity every 500 hours on average.
You should be banished to Siberia for telling such grotesquely tall tales, Lieutenant. Check with Bristow though... they may have a base there.
Hmmmmmmm, deep breath Revo. Okay. I feel better now. About your question: There are two problems with your grandiose plan. One is that Air Log in Louisiana and Bristow in Aberdeen are not close sisters as you assume, but rather distant cousins with about as much in common as Barack Obama and Dick Cheney. Working for one will likely get you no closer to working for the other.
The other problem is more of a philosophical one, and here I am speaking to you in a fatherly sort of way (although I am quite sure that I never met your mother): If you spend years focusing on that one dream job to the exclusion of everything else, you are in for a letdown once you get there because that dream job of yours will turn out to be quite mundane -like every other job- within about two weeks.
My advice (if you still want it): stick with the first three bullet points and don't worry about where it will lead. Down the line something will come to you. And your wife. And your cats. Good luck, Pinocchio.
The only way I would believe that is if you were flying a Rotorway Shark built out of driftwood by a retarded monkey.
Seriously, many people will never have even a single catastrophic component failure in the course of an entire career. Those that, by their own admission, fly 'junk' helicopters may up the odds somewhat but not to the point of having a calamity every 500 hours on average.
You should be banished to Siberia for telling such grotesquely tall tales, Lieutenant. Check with Bristow though... they may have a base there.
Hmmmmmmm, deep breath Revo. Okay. I feel better now. About your question: There are two problems with your grandiose plan. One is that Air Log in Louisiana and Bristow in Aberdeen are not close sisters as you assume, but rather distant cousins with about as much in common as Barack Obama and Dick Cheney. Working for one will likely get you no closer to working for the other.
The other problem is more of a philosophical one, and here I am speaking to you in a fatherly sort of way (although I am quite sure that I never met your mother): If you spend years focusing on that one dream job to the exclusion of everything else, you are in for a letdown once you get there because that dream job of yours will turn out to be quite mundane -like every other job- within about two weeks.
My advice (if you still want it): stick with the first three bullet points and don't worry about where it will lead. Down the line something will come to you. And your wife. And your cats. Good luck, Pinocchio.
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darrenphughes,
I guess I should qualify, "More knowledge does not necessarily make a better pilot." I agree that more relevant knowledge does, but being able to describe the tool used to set the rivets to attach the wing tends not to help one become a good pilot.
Much like being able to do all the work of a compass swing. Don't we train AMEs to do that stuff? If we can do their job does that make us better pilots? More versatile employees, perhaps, but not better pilots, IMO.
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Matthew.
I guess I should qualify, "More knowledge does not necessarily make a better pilot." I agree that more relevant knowledge does, but being able to describe the tool used to set the rivets to attach the wing tends not to help one become a good pilot.
Much like being able to do all the work of a compass swing. Don't we train AMEs to do that stuff? If we can do their job does that make us better pilots? More versatile employees, perhaps, but not better pilots, IMO.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Parsons
darrenphughes,
I guess I should qualify, "More knowledge does not necessarily make a better pilot." I agree that more relevant knowledge does, but being able to describe the tool used to set the rivets to attach the wing tends not to help one become a good pilot.
Much like being able to do all the work of a compass swing. Don't we train AMEs to do that stuff? If we can do their job does that make us better pilots? More versatile employees, perhaps, but not better pilots, IMO.
Cheers,
Matthew.
I guess I should qualify, "More knowledge does not necessarily make a better pilot." I agree that more relevant knowledge does, but being able to describe the tool used to set the rivets to attach the wing tends not to help one become a good pilot.
Much like being able to do all the work of a compass swing. Don't we train AMEs to do that stuff? If we can do their job does that make us better pilots? More versatile employees, perhaps, but not better pilots, IMO.
Cheers,
Matthew.
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Ok, so you think the US sucks.Have you been to Scotland before and had first hand experience of the 'Jock'?Take a vacation first then make you're mind up!!
Crab,
Less the Sunshine....you just described the USA....price of petrol went up Dollar a gallon today alone....due to Hurricane Ike heading into the GOM.
I'm thinking of trying to find a Winkle franchise for purchase in the UK....at least the beer is real there!
Less the Sunshine....you just described the USA....price of petrol went up Dollar a gallon today alone....due to Hurricane Ike heading into the GOM.
I'm thinking of trying to find a Winkle franchise for purchase in the UK....at least the beer is real there!
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Rather a long time ago I enquired as to why we had to do the compass swing questions for the ATPL and was told that the CAA, (actually BoT then!), had to assume worst case scenario. This might mean you have landed somewhere after a lightening strike, for example, and with no AME available, because you are multi faceted and can do compass swings you could over see a swing and legally depart! (Can you believe it!
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Personally I forgot everything I knew about compass swings five minutes after the exams! If you really want to test yourself try the question that only gives three headings! I had to sit Instruments twice because of that, barstewards!
Lt. Kije, if you are still with us, invest in a 'phone call to the CAA in the UK. In the past they have sent out a form on which you list ALL your experience, licences held etc. return this form accompanied by certified true copies of your log-books and licences and a fat cheque, they then assess you and advise exactly what you will need to do to get a UK licence. As has already been mentioned, it is quite a lot.
).Personally I forgot everything I knew about compass swings five minutes after the exams! If you really want to test yourself try the question that only gives three headings! I had to sit Instruments twice because of that, barstewards!
Lt. Kije, if you are still with us, invest in a 'phone call to the CAA in the UK. In the past they have sent out a form on which you list ALL your experience, licences held etc. return this form accompanied by certified true copies of your log-books and licences and a fat cheque, they then assess you and advise exactly what you will need to do to get a UK licence. As has already been mentioned, it is quite a lot.
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Troglodita & Matthew,
In the pursuit of a ballanced argument I have to say that having read the earlier post regarding being thanked by the families of the people whose lives he saved, I immediately assumed he was talking about his EMS flying.
I don't think he was bragging abut saving people whose lives he had put at risk by knowingly flying them into unsafe conditions.
That having been said I believe he is now aware that the rules and regulations pertaining to employment in this field are far more complicated and stringent on this side of the Atlantic than he had envisioned.
In the pursuit of a ballanced argument I have to say that having read the earlier post regarding being thanked by the families of the people whose lives he saved, I immediately assumed he was talking about his EMS flying.
I don't think he was bragging abut saving people whose lives he had put at risk by knowingly flying them into unsafe conditions.
That having been said I believe he is now aware that the rules and regulations pertaining to employment in this field are far more complicated and stringent on this side of the Atlantic than he had envisioned.
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Winkle & Jellied Eel Franchise for Sale!
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Stop Press: Margate Seafood Purveyors Weekly.
Just what you were looking for - mind you - don't think you can just turn up as a US citizen and steal a job that could be easily done by highly skilled Bulgarian, Romanian, Latvian or Polish workers! Your 2 day course at the ACME school of Clam Bakers will not be any use to you here!
Oh no - you will need to sit 13/14 exams including learning the latin names of every shellfish or marine vertebrate known to man and know the entire process from initial discovery of oil or gas deposits to the production of the propane being used for your boiler! Then there is food hygiene and Elf and Safety and even safe disposal of used winkle shells so as not to exacerbate Global Warning to consider.
Will this make you a better Winkle Seller - of course it will - stands to reason!
Oh no - we don't issue Winkle licences to all and sundry stamped "Not valid in the UK" and have loads of foreigners turning up on foreign shores claiming to have all sorts of rubber stamped qualifications and harming the natives!
We have Standards.
Stick to the Caribbean mate.
Trog
Stop Press: Margate Seafood Purveyors Weekly.
Ill Health due to heavy metal poisoning forces sale
Winkle and Jellied Eel mobile unit complete with propane boilers, scum skimmers, winkle pins and hi tech advertising units (blackboards and 4 sticks of chalk) for sale.
Margate area. Would suit semi retired seafaring gentleman with multi lingual tendencies and ability to deal with Truckers.
Never raced or rallied – new tyres in 1987 – MOT till end September.
Ask for Chas or Dave.
Winkle and Jellied Eel mobile unit complete with propane boilers, scum skimmers, winkle pins and hi tech advertising units (blackboards and 4 sticks of chalk) for sale.
Margate area. Would suit semi retired seafaring gentleman with multi lingual tendencies and ability to deal with Truckers.
Never raced or rallied – new tyres in 1987 – MOT till end September.
Ask for Chas or Dave.
Oh no - you will need to sit 13/14 exams including learning the latin names of every shellfish or marine vertebrate known to man and know the entire process from initial discovery of oil or gas deposits to the production of the propane being used for your boiler! Then there is food hygiene and Elf and Safety and even safe disposal of used winkle shells so as not to exacerbate Global Warning to consider.
Will this make you a better Winkle Seller - of course it will - stands to reason!
Oh no - we don't issue Winkle licences to all and sundry stamped "Not valid in the UK" and have loads of foreigners turning up on foreign shores claiming to have all sorts of rubber stamped qualifications and harming the natives!
We have Standards.
Stick to the Caribbean mate.
Trog
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Originally Posted by darrenphughes
I'll take it that was aimed at me!
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Actually, I don't think it was. I suspect it was aimed at the thread starter!
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I'm thinking of trying to find a Winkle franchise for purchase in the UK....at least the beer is real there!
And CAMRA have also rejected your application, due to a destroyed palate after too many years of watching Bud adverts
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Matthew P.:
(very thoughtful... couldn't have worded your first comment better - not even in my mother tongue )
I don't know if knowing how ADF's work in a snow-storm will make me a better pilot if you hardly have any NDB's in the US anymore?! Not to mention that I try not to be in icing conditions (in a helicopter that is) in the first place.
Agreed, the US-system should demand more knowledge than it is now, but the european system certainly overshoots the target.
(I have the study material for the JAA ATPL on the shelf at home, so I know what I'm talking about)
(very thoughtful... couldn't have worded your first comment better - not even in my mother tongue
)I don't know if knowing how ADF's work in a snow-storm will make me a better pilot if you hardly have any NDB's in the US anymore?! Not to mention that I try not to be in icing conditions (in a helicopter that is) in the first place.
Agreed, the US-system should demand more knowledge than it is now, but the european system certainly overshoots the target.
(I have the study material for the JAA ATPL on the shelf at home, so I know what I'm talking about)
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Lt Kilje you will by now have realised that your UK ambition may not be simple.
If you and your family really want to live and fly here, follow the good advice in Parabellum's last paragraph. Once you have an Assessment you can start working out whether and how you can acheive your ambition. Refer also to Whirls's DERA link and Immigration advice.
Finally it's got to be said that there are no job guarantees in this life. So don't sell up until you've acheived everything you need AND have a signed contract of employment in your hand. Meantime keep earning good US$.
It's quite a gamble, your plan. Good luck.
If you and your family really want to live and fly here, follow the good advice in Parabellum's last paragraph. Once you have an Assessment you can start working out whether and how you can acheive your ambition. Refer also to Whirls's DERA link and Immigration advice.
Finally it's got to be said that there are no job guarantees in this life. So don't sell up until you've acheived everything you need AND have a signed contract of employment in your hand. Meantime keep earning good US$.
It's quite a gamble, your plan. Good luck.