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Old 8th Aug 2008, 05:05
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AVX Aircraft Company?

Hello, does anybody know anything about a supposedly radically advanced helicopter being developed in Fort Worth, Texas called the AVX 300 by the AVX Aircraft Company? Thanks!
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There are a couple of hints about an AVX-12 on some interesting websites, but little else.

It appears they've been in business for a while, supposedly selling light helicopters..
Brett Jackson - LinkedIn - their marketing guy

There's a website that doesn't open up
Untitled Document

(not sure what this says about their marketing guy)

And one more from some design company
Edward Bae Design
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yes, ran into their marketing guy, Brett Jackson at an airshow in Denver but could not get much out of him, 3 to 4 place turbine powered......claims helicopter will change industry.
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Cool AVX

Yes, But not ready for prime time. Come back in six months..
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Question

Why have a marketing guy when you don't want to tell anyone about what you are developing?
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another one??

There are a fair no of Co. making helicopters! without actually having a product that stands up.
Must be a lot of capital about at low interest to be able to start shouting about the revolutionary machine , that they are going to bring out in the next ( fill in your own time scale here) , how much to develop even a 2\3place machine with full type approval then market to a sceptical industry that is working on slim to no margins.

Lets see them in finished form flying & with approval, not a concept or a lash up.
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The marketing guy is probably there to sell the concept to naive bank managers and investors....a continuing trend with "revolutionary" helicopters that fail to get beyond drawings and concept models.
How many of these have we seen come and go ??
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AVX has finally emerged from the shadows: New firm proposes makeover for Army scout copter.

And, based on the configuration shown in the article, it looks like flight testing is already well underway:









I/C
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I saw an AVX presentation last week at a local AHS dinner near Ft. Worth last week. Met some of the Engineers that are working on the concept. They are all ex or retired Bell Engineers (I think) including the boss who was VP for Engineering at Bell. AVX has a good chance of becoming a reality given the talent base. The funding will be the major wicket.
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Old 13th Apr 2010, 21:58
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My question is what of the OH58 do you keep ?. Maybe just the data plate .
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AVX and ARH

AVX are a group of mostly retired Bell engineers. They might be long in the tooth, but I'm sure they are all still sharp.

I think the approach they have taken in their bid for a revised ARH program is actually quite good. They're using some parts of an existing Army helo that are worth keeping (engine and airframe), replacing the rotor and drive system with improved components, and getting much better performance in the bargain. This less costly "major upgrade" approach may appeal to the army more than a clean sheet design given the army's current budget situation and the recent cost overrun/cancellation debacle of the ARH-70.

The only stumbling block I can see is that AVX is not well funded. And the DoD is usually reluctant to award big contracts to vendors with limited financial resources. AVX will likely need to partner with a company that has deeper pockets if it is to be successful bidding for something like this.

Regardless, I wish them well. The US rotorcraft industry needs just these types of small, nimble, aggressive and creative companies to shake it out of its current doldrums.

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For those of you that are in Ft. Worth this week, AVX has a pretty neat display at the Quad A Convention. Includes a large model plus simulator.
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Things are getting interesting with the US Army's Armed Aerial Scout
(AAS)

Sikorsky offers the X2

Ares Homepage

AVX:
The Kamov Warrior

Ares Homepage


EADS Lakota:

http://www.aas-72x.com/

Regards
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Orders are welcomed, production within NATO





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My comments will not likely apply to AVX Aircraft Company but I got thinking .....

Frank left the mainstream helicopter industry and did well selling the R22..... and now plans to discontinue it ....

So what if a group of seasoned engineers set out to develop a new company with a new 2 place piston.

Imagine something with a real cyclic , a rotorhead that even the late Lu Zuckerman would endorse , 2000 TBO ..... hey .... a guy can dream right !!!

It could also be a marketers dream. They would sell like hotcakes.
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Arnie

take close look at Cabri G2
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My first thought too.
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I'm interested in seeing how they will provide the low speed yaw control and directional stability that a scout would need. Perhaps differential aft thrusters?

Matthew.
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Old 16th Apr 2010, 13:51
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Cool

Matthew,

Kamov is doing this since decades (and without fans) - where do you see a problem for AVX?

Cheers,

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Old 16th Apr 2010, 19:25
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AVX uses differential thrusters at for yaw control. On coax it is usually differential collective and in the KA-32 there are two big rudders.. Hover yaw control in the KA-32 is not very responsive.
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