S76 Parking Brake Handle vs Collective
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And as a fail safe, have the other pilot guard their collective with a locked arm. No way you could overpower him/her from your side with the hand turned about this way.
Single pilot IFR....?
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It was the single pilot thing, really...... 
We pre-positioned another pilot at each destination, of course (we did that on our days off).
We pre-positioned another pilot at each destination, of course (we did that on our days off).
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pause, think - don't yank! What is the world coming to ......
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Thanks for that. Short of gymnastic training being included with a 76 endorsement, it sounds to me like turning the hand to the rear is the most sensible suggestion.
Thanks for that. Short of gymnastic training being included with a 76 endorsement, it sounds to me like turning the hand to the rear is the most sensible suggestion.
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CRM
We had a parking brake in the UH-60 Blackhawk sort of like the one in the S-76 except it was futher aft and on the center console. We had a different method in setting the brake than what we use in the civilian sector. Instead of the Pilot on Controls (POC for short) setting the brake, the other pilot would set the brakes...because he was "on the controls." I found this odd in the civilian sector that the POC would release the collective to pull the handle because his responsibility is controlling the aircraft. This is even more important while running on the ground.
Our method required CRM. The POC would lock the brakes with his feet and hold them while the Pilot Not on Controls would pull the brake handle and announce "brakes set." After the announcement from the Pilot Not on Controls, the POC would release the brakes and announce "brakes released." This method worked great and allowed the POC to remain on the controls but it did require CRM.
Our method required CRM. The POC would lock the brakes with his feet and hold them while the Pilot Not on Controls would pull the brake handle and announce "brakes set." After the announcement from the Pilot Not on Controls, the POC would release the brakes and announce "brakes released." This method worked great and allowed the POC to remain on the controls but it did require CRM.
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CHC at Humberside U.K. had such an incident the aircraft jumped into the air and I think it even bent the tail when it came back down. Noone hurt but Management were aghast. This was sometime between 2000-2005.
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And I thought it was only us !!
Don't blame Humberside twas N/Denes - P2 as HP repositioned the aircraft on the spot to provide bettter access for the pax then reached over the center console to set the parking brake and pull the P1 collective up sitting the aircraft on it's tail. Skin and stringer crimps in the tail cone ensued, fortunatly someone had clevely mounted the ADELT so that it could double as a tail bumper thus limiting the airframe damage. 
Check out AAIB website bulletin for Oct 2001
Check out AAIB website bulletin for Oct 2001
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A good post cattletruck but I don't know that the blame can be laid entirely at the feet of the engineering department. As I said in a previous post I had never heard of this problem and that is with some thing like 12,000 hours in the bird. Upon reading of the problem and thinking about how I did it I always looked at the handle before pulling, and not because I had any thought that I might pull the collective instead. I managed to make plenty of other cock ups, but brake handle was not one of them.
