Who does the heli rides at Hollowell Steam rally?
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My only concern with pleasure flying sometimes operators use low hour pilots which are keen to build hours as they are cheaper
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Obviously you came out of the womb with 2000hrs in your logbook ...
I thought that statistically, it was pilots in the 500-1,000 hour band who had the most accidents and that newly-qualified CPLs didn't feature as high in the data! It's all relative of course.
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Hi all
Coppertop…
Obviously you came out of the womb with 2000hrs in your logbook...
… I wish, if I had I would not have to have worked as hard and spent so much money on my training!!!
Wirlygig… May I say you always seem to write well-balanced, inoffensive and well thought out comments…. Well done and keep it up!
Regarding the statistics comment on accidents. How many pilots are out there flying commercially below 500hrs? Not many I guess….. North sea? But as co jock’s? Could explain it? Just an idea!!
Brilliant Stuff…. Isn’t it because over 5000 hrs some people become complacent etc….as they say most car accidents happen within 2 miles of your home due to feel to “comfortable” as you know the area so well??
Just ideas!!!
Coppertop…
Obviously you came out of the womb with 2000hrs in your logbook...
… I wish, if I had I would not have to have worked as hard and spent so much money on my training!!!
Wirlygig… May I say you always seem to write well-balanced, inoffensive and well thought out comments…. Well done and keep it up!
Regarding the statistics comment on accidents. How many pilots are out there flying commercially below 500hrs? Not many I guess….. North sea? But as co jock’s? Could explain it? Just an idea!!
Brilliant Stuff…. Isn’t it because over 5000 hrs some people become complacent etc….as they say most car accidents happen within 2 miles of your home due to feel to “comfortable” as you know the area so well??
Just ideas!!!
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Choppertop…Sorry if I missed your point, I would be very grateful if you could explain it to me……….
Twiddle…. Yes I agree, complacency certainly stems from overconfidence, i.e. it’s raining and the “A” check gets done quickly and certain aspects are neglected due to not finding a problem before… I was recently told of a high hr PPL nearly getting into a mess by just that…
Choppertop…Sorry if I missed your point, I would be very grateful if you could explain it to me……….
Twiddle…. Yes I agree, complacency certainly stems from overconfidence, i.e. it’s raining and the “A” check gets done quickly and certain aspects are neglected due to not finding a problem before… I was recently told of a high hr PPL nearly getting into a mess by just that…
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I don't know where you get your figures from, do you just pluck them out of thin air? I hope you are a bit more precise with your numbers when starting a Jet Banger or similar! ...... Oh 927 that's close enough to 950 isn't it......
FWIW: I started flying commercially with 161 hours in my log book. A quick chat with a few other CPL(H)'s and around the 200 hour figure seems to be the norm. Where do you get this figure of 500 hours from???? Do you really think newly qualified CPL's pay for 300 or so hours after getting their licence issued.
BTW: Are you working in the industry yet???? How many hours do you have? I hope you're not building hours by working for free
I don't know where you get your figures from, do you just pluck them out of thin air? I hope you are a bit more precise with your numbers when starting a Jet Banger or similar! ...... Oh 927 that's close enough to 950 isn't it......
FWIW: I started flying commercially with 161 hours in my log book. A quick chat with a few other CPL(H)'s and around the 200 hour figure seems to be the norm. Where do you get this figure of 500 hours from???? Do you really think newly qualified CPL's pay for 300 or so hours after getting their licence issued.
BTW: Are you working in the industry yet???? How many hours do you have? I hope you're not building hours by working for free
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Hi Ew Turn
You do seem very touchy for a professional ……… the reason I stated the 500 hr mark specifically is that was the figure quoted to me by a company I approached regarding the minimum hours they could accept to enable them to insure me to fly commercially at a rate that was prohibitively expensive to them.
Is it not true that most enter the industry via either the Instructor route or as a North Sea co jock? So as I say I guess there are not many people below around the 500hr mark that out and about flying pic commercially? I stand to be corrected however as this is a rumor network not a school playground if you get me EW!!
Sorry but as for your Jet banger comment, come on… Hardly a constructive professional remark is it…
I have around 1000 hrs; again I could split hairs and get the exact number if you really want…. And no have not worked for free just been employed until recently and now gone down the self-employed road with a large unpaid bill!!!!
Before you ask ET …… built hrs to get an instructor rating and paid for them!!!
Good night all
You do seem very touchy for a professional ……… the reason I stated the 500 hr mark specifically is that was the figure quoted to me by a company I approached regarding the minimum hours they could accept to enable them to insure me to fly commercially at a rate that was prohibitively expensive to them.
Is it not true that most enter the industry via either the Instructor route or as a North Sea co jock? So as I say I guess there are not many people below around the 500hr mark that out and about flying pic commercially? I stand to be corrected however as this is a rumor network not a school playground if you get me EW!!
Sorry but as for your Jet banger comment, come on… Hardly a constructive professional remark is it…
I have around 1000 hrs; again I could split hairs and get the exact number if you really want…. And no have not worked for free just been employed until recently and now gone down the self-employed road with a large unpaid bill!!!!
Before you ask ET …… built hrs to get an instructor rating and paid for them!!!
Good night all
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Hi
I'm a bit 'touchy feely' apparently but certainly not touchy. One must have a thick skin in this game surely??? (Oh and I save my constuctive ,professional remarks for work and annual appraisals)
What does annoy me somewhat is figures being quoted with nothing concrete to substantiate them with, that is all and I'm sorry if you feel I was having a go at you as I wasn't.
What really annoys me is people working for free. (I remember when I had just got my CPL(H) there was someone offering an employer $10,000 to give them a job )
Yes FI or CPL + IR seem to be the two most successful ways into this industry. Personally I'm not prepared to fork out $$$/£££ on an IR with no guarantees and will only do an FI course when I have all the money in the bank saved up !
Anyway : Fly safe
ET
I'm a bit 'touchy feely' apparently but certainly not touchy. One must have a thick skin in this game surely??? (Oh and I save my constuctive ,professional remarks for work and annual appraisals
)What does annoy me somewhat is figures being quoted with nothing concrete to substantiate them with, that is all and I'm sorry if you feel I was having a go at you as I wasn't.
What really annoys me is people working for free. (I remember when I had just got my CPL(H) there was someone offering an employer $10,000 to give them a job
)Yes FI or CPL + IR seem to be the two most successful ways into this industry. Personally I'm not prepared to fork out $$$/£££ on an IR with no guarantees and will only do an FI course when I have all the money in the bank saved up !
Anyway : Fly safe
ET
