Italian NH 90 accident 1st June 08
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Shy - contradiction?
To my dismay, two other military helicopters who had obviously not recce'd, did display and carried out vertical manoeuvres directly above the crowd, which I thought totally outrageous and stupid.
The point is, in the case of military display flying, at least in UK, the whole thing is very strictly controlled. I have no reason to believe it is less so elsewhere.
The point is, in the case of military display flying, at least in UK, the whole thing is very strictly controlled. I have no reason to believe it is less so elsewhere.
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Yes, it is. They weren't RAF pilots though.
ShyTorque:
Thanks for the clinic on display flying.
Thanks for the clinic on display flying.
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Ditto. One of the more sensible posts seen in my ... OMG how long was it since I last flew??? (off licking wounds and having a hot milk)
31yrs! (that'll teach me to count)
31yrs! (that'll teach me to count)
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To add my two cents worth-
I remember being at Greenham Common (does that date me?) in 1981 and watching a UK military crew put on a display in a large helicopter. The display pilot was evidently 'approved' by the appropriate authorities in their service.
What was particularly galling was that the display broke numerous limitations published in the operational flight manual. Regardless of whether there were any structural limitations really violated, the impression that must have been left with any operational pilots of that type watching the show was that 'limitations don't mean anything anymore'.
And we wonder why we have accidents like this one?
I remember being at Greenham Common (does that date me?) in 1981 and watching a UK military crew put on a display in a large helicopter. The display pilot was evidently 'approved' by the appropriate authorities in their service.
What was particularly galling was that the display broke numerous limitations published in the operational flight manual. Regardless of whether there were any structural limitations really violated, the impression that must have been left with any operational pilots of that type watching the show was that 'limitations don't mean anything anymore'.
And we wonder why we have accidents like this one?
.. only the pilot died ..
While I share in the feeling of gratitude that the remaining crew survived, I regard the fact that Filippo was a man cherish by his family (he was indeed their world) and someone who remains deeply missed by them and his former colleagues.
Capitano Filippo Fornassi
RIP
.. only the pilot died .. I realise (to some) this loss may seem insignificant.
However I've got to say, while it would be heartless and unfeeling to wish these events on fellow pilots, I'm not friends with everyone just because they happen to hold a pilots licence. As such there is a limit to my emotions over someone completely unknown to me.
The timing of some recent threads given yesterdays events is pretty unfortunate but lets remember why this thread got rekindled.
It merely follows on from some sneering remarks where some here (PPRuNe not this thread) tried to correlate private pilots (perhaps wealthy) with accidents.
Comments similar to "these people who have done well in other aspects of life think that they can fly, etc,etc...." have been made more than once.
As others have said before it can happen to the best.
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PITTS - I know you will not listen but you need to re-read your posts on this thread and take a lttle time to consider the impact of the things you have said (I know you do not really mean them) on the Pilot's family, god forbid should they read them.
Flying, either professionally or for the pure joy of it, can be the most rewarding activity you can do. It can also be the most heartbreaking and tragic. Posts like this (although the event is several years ago) will be visited many times by people who are close to the individual(s) involved.
Sometimes its best not to post unless you can only say good positive things.
Professional pilots make no distinction between Mil or Civilian backgrounds. All we care about is that we all try to be safe and look out for each other. Thats what matters the most.
Its best to keep the wiesecracks and joisting for threads about rules and helicopter performance and other things that don't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
I think at least you owe SAVOIA and apology. His post in tribute reads like the Captain was known to him.
Best Regards
DB
Flying, either professionally or for the pure joy of it, can be the most rewarding activity you can do. It can also be the most heartbreaking and tragic. Posts like this (although the event is several years ago) will be visited many times by people who are close to the individual(s) involved.
Sometimes its best not to post unless you can only say good positive things.
Professional pilots make no distinction between Mil or Civilian backgrounds. All we care about is that we all try to be safe and look out for each other. Thats what matters the most.
Its best to keep the wiesecracks and joisting for threads about rules and helicopter performance and other things that don't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
I think at least you owe SAVOIA and apology. His post in tribute reads like the Captain was known to him.
Best Regards
DB
Pitts: Thank you for this retraction. It was an appreciated gesture.
My greatest concern is however for Filippo's family. The internet is fickle and can be unkind to those with special sensitivity ie. his family and friends.
I might also call into question the whole matter of using this thread to pursue (by your own admission) an altogether separate agenda but .. let's leave that for now.
My greatest concern is however for Filippo's family. The internet is fickle and can be unkind to those with special sensitivity ie. his family and friends.
I might also call into question the whole matter of using this thread to pursue (by your own admission) an altogether separate agenda but .. let's leave that for now.
