What would you choose, R22 or 300CBi if a similar price?
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What would you choose, R22 or 300CBi if a similar price
The Robsinson should have been classified as an ultra-light or an overgrown model perhaps. It is not a real helicopter.
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Before starting my PPL training, I did a trial flight in both the 300 & R22. My feedback: I hate the 300 and only ever flew in it twice. Granted the Robinson design does not summon images of Italian designers showing their craftwork, but the 300 is the ugliest helicopter made. I would be embarrassed to offer someone their first helicopter flight and they arrive to see the seemingly unfinished "bubble & sticks"contraption that is the 300.
After my PPL, I near solely fly a R44 RavenII or ClipperII, but still get in the odd R22 flight. Fly in something that will make you a better pilot (I’d even say learn in a R22 in preference to a R44 to build your skills).
After receiving your license, there are many more R22/R44 available for SFH globally.
On a side note, before my first intro lesson and not knowing anything about either helicopter, I’m on the phone with the school and he says you can fly the R22 or300 today - your choice. I ask “what’s your preference?” He replied “they’re both good; however if you were to crash one, you’d prefer to be in the 300; don’t crash and you’ll have more fun flying the R22”
After my PPL, I near solely fly a R44 RavenII or ClipperII, but still get in the odd R22 flight. Fly in something that will make you a better pilot (I’d even say learn in a R22 in preference to a R44 to build your skills).
After receiving your license, there are many more R22/R44 available for SFH globally.
On a side note, before my first intro lesson and not knowing anything about either helicopter, I’m on the phone with the school and he says you can fly the R22 or300 today - your choice. I ask “what’s your preference?” He replied “they’re both good; however if you were to crash one, you’d prefer to be in the 300; don’t crash and you’ll have more fun flying the R22”
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So what do you hate about a 300, just its looks ?( Beauty is in the eye of the beholder granted ) Would suggest you be a bit more worldly wise before criticising a machine when you obviously know f all about them.
Please do the following experiment in your wonderfull 22, trim the cylic up in the hover and let go of it( for 10 seconds) see what happens,then try in a 300. Let me know the result
So what do you hate about a 300, just its looks ?( Beauty is in the eye of the beholder granted ) Would suggest you be a bit more worldly wise before criticising a machine when you obviously know f all about them.
Please do the following experiment in your wonderfull 22, trim the cylic up in the hover and let go of it( for 10 seconds) see what happens,then try in a 300. Let me know the result
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RMK,
I definitely don't find the 269/300s 'ugly'.
On the contrary, like the Bell 47, there's a pure, functional, design quality that's really quite attractive, IMO.
Everything is there for a puropse, with just the right blend of design sophistication, engineering integrity, lightness and accessibility. The 'C' models are the best though for performance and handling.
It's a 'classic'.
I definitely don't find the 269/300s 'ugly'.
On the contrary, like the Bell 47, there's a pure, functional, design quality that's really quite attractive, IMO.
Everything is there for a puropse, with just the right blend of design sophistication, engineering integrity, lightness and accessibility. The 'C' models are the best though for performance and handling.
It's a 'classic'.
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I could take the bonnet, quarter panels and boot lid off of my car and say it’s functional beauty – but it just looks better if I leave the bodywork in place.
To its owner this dog is surely handsome, a fine example of the breed & a loyal companion
handsome chap!
Just winding you guys up; you do it all the time with the R44/R22. I’ll be back tomorrow to say derogatory things about the Wessex.
To its owner this dog is surely handsome, a fine example of the breed & a loyal companion
handsome chap!
Just winding you guys up; you do it all the time with the R44/R22. I’ll be back tomorrow to say derogatory things about the Wessex.
I could take the bonnet, quarter panels and boot lid off of my car and say it’s functional beauty – but it just looks better if I leave the bodywork in place.
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RVDT,
that is an excellent photograph. Never seen one of those with its clothes off, interesting to see the complexity of the flight controls and simplicity of construction. Also the structural panel over the donk to keep everything on the level I suppose. six pots? what sort?
A very interesting photo for the background even though a file photo; do you have any idea where? a private collection or public museum, looks like a canadian version of the F86, big stuipid guess there to the left and a bigger more stupid guess perhaps to the right is that an F80 or Mig17.
cheers tet
that is an excellent photograph. Never seen one of those with its clothes off, interesting to see the complexity of the flight controls and simplicity of construction. Also the structural panel over the donk to keep everything on the level I suppose. six pots? what sort?
A very interesting photo for the background even though a file photo; do you have any idea where? a private collection or public museum, looks like a canadian version of the F86, big stuipid guess there to the left and a bigger more stupid guess perhaps to the right is that an F80 or Mig17.
cheers tet
TET, RVDT's image was taken at Chino in California, the craft is a McCulloch MC4 (can't confirm the craft in the background unfortunately) but you can read more about the MC4 here.
