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Old 24th Feb 2008, 21:31
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Heli Expo 2008 report with photos

Greetings all

Just saw this morning the hue and cry and great revealing of the new Eurocopter EC-175 and slightly disappointed . Looks like a souped up AW139....however what sticks in my mind is the 3 bladed tail rotor. Interesting.....

Truth be told I am more impressed with the new ERA EC-225

Nice to see the LAPD new colour scheme for their latest AS-350B2 and the new glass cocpit Bell 206B III.

Agustawestland stand ..quite impressive
SIkorsky's stand what with the X2 pretty impressive and new First response Cougar S-92 SAR.

Bell ....not bad this year..what with the 429 and Delaware police multi mission Bell 412.

Thats all folks for now

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Old 24th Feb 2008, 22:41
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I saw the EC175 mockup before it left for the States. It does vaguely resemble the 139 but its bigger - 16 seats (?) in a reasonably spacious cabin. And Joy - more legroom for the pilots than the AS332L / EC225 family! Its also got proper doors... And American engines (which is pretty amazing for the French!)

A reliable source told me not to pay attention to the 3 bladed tail rotor - after all its only a mock-up! Maybe someone broke one so they had to space the remaining 3 out...

Lets hope that having the fuel and baggage at the back does not result in CofG issues a la 139.

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If you have any pictures from HAI, please post it. Thanks
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 11:52
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Plenty of pictures and vidoes from this years show here http://www.aintv.com/
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 13:41
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Website of the new EC-139 err.. EC-175!

http://www.eurocopter.com/w1/ec175/

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Old 25th Feb 2008, 14:15
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Hi 407TX

If I can lay my hands on a friends laptop or PC I'll down load the photos here in Houston. Otherwise it will have to be at the end of the week. Sorry friend
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With the Chinese involved I wouldn't be surprised if a little "design borrowing" took place.
Power plants are the same as the 139's, so there's only so much you can squeeze out of performance.
Put more weight on those donkies and you are going to end up with just a bigger and heavier underpowered 155.
Let's not forget that the 139 is certified for 15 passengers away from the land of "Supersize Me".
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Old 26th Feb 2008, 19:50
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IMHO in the pictures I have seen I find the EC-175 rather an ugly duckling.
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with a base price of $8 mill dollars im not suprised they sold 100 already
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Old 26th Feb 2008, 22:35
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Nooo, Eurocopter, where has your beautiful aesthetic design team gone? It looks like an Mi-2 Hoplite that has popped over to Thailand for some cheap plastic surgery.
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so where is EC160 and 165 . I am sure VIH would buy one as they seem to get at least one of each other model.
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Old 26th Feb 2008, 22:52
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Yet another Renault from France just like their Airbus products, this one made worse by the Chink participation.
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More powerful (Canadian!) engines than the AB139 and far larger and capable machine.

Always nice to see we all live in the global village: Isn't part of the S92 made in China by the Jingdezhen Helicopter Group, with more in Taiwan, Spain etc??

http://www.verticalmag.com/control/n...es/?a=6880&z=6
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Old 27th Feb 2008, 03:34
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...so where is EC160....
I don't think ECF are in the market to produce 6 tonne single engined aircraft just yet!
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Zalt, no the donkeys are the same as the AW139 (P&WC PT6s) and they have the same -67E number.
The only difference there may be a full time DEC rather than the AW139 EEC.
So I am figuring roughly the same specific fuel burn; they also carry up to 530 gallons fuel.
This EC-175 got nothing to do with the S-92, but everything to do with ch....., I mean inexpensive production costs.
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Old 27th Feb 2008, 10:25
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Power plants are the same as the 139's, so there's only so much you can squeeze out of performance.
Put more weight on those donkies and you are going to end up with just a bigger and heavier underpowered 155.
Let's not forget that the 139 is certified for 15 passengers away from the land of "Supersize Me".
I don't think the 175 will be underpowered, I hope they are going to start from 7.000MGW like the 139 will be this summer or later, there is power to add a couple of pax or more fuel, as some people have said in this forum we can reduce the OEI performances for a few seconds.

The 15 pax. option in the 139 isn't very comfortable, so it's really nice a bigger cabin, if they do it right the 175 I'm sure will be another winner.

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Zalt, no the donkeys are the same as the AW139 (P&WC PT6s) and they have the same -67E number. The only difference there may be a full time DEC rather than the AW139 EEC.
Not true, the -67E offers a useful power advantage over the -67C at all ratings.

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Old 27th Feb 2008, 16:02
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OK, I'll go back in my corner for a while
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Hey, don't leave just yet!

Besides, in addition to the Renault 5, they did also give us half of Concorde. And some nice plonk. And Sophie Marceau, Eva Green, Emmanuelle Beart, Brigitte Bardot and Alizee. (Sorry, I seem to have wandered off-subject... )

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Old 28th Feb 2008, 01:24
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Is it over

So is the Expo over yet or What?!!!

Maybe then Gentlemen you can return back to work and have a look at some resumes/C.V's that the Global heli population has sent you in the last week and maybe advertise a few jobs online if you have any.

I will be available soon, ha ha

When is it next year, some where nice I hope?

Safe flying

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