UK "Rule 5" Exemption charges
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UK "Rule 5" Exemption charges
Late last year there was a proposal from the CAA to increase the Rule 5 Exemption fee from £100 to £380 by this April.
The CAA consultation got responses from certain individuals and the British Helicopter Advisory Board - and the result is that this massive increase will not now happen. The increase will be a small inflation-based amount.
Well done BHAB. May your trawl for new members be successful, because your system works.
The CAA consultation got responses from certain individuals and the British Helicopter Advisory Board - and the result is that this massive increase will not now happen. The increase will be a small inflation-based amount.
Well done BHAB. May your trawl for new members be successful, because your system works.
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Very glad to hear it, Jim.
Last year the charge increased by 10% as it is, it went from £90 to £100.
Does this mean it will go up by only 2.9%? - I somehow doubt it.
Last year the charge increased by 10% as it is, it went from £90 to £100.
Does this mean it will go up by only 2.9%? - I somehow doubt it.
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I hate to be pedantic (actually, that's not true!) but an increase of £10 to £100 is an increase of 11.11%.
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WPI - Whirls' Price Index. It's a number I pluck out of the air on a random basis - bit like the Government and the CAA do!!!
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Pedantic? Catty, more like. 
That will teach me to read PPRuNe while I'm also thinking about flying..
Don't worry, I'll soon find a spelling mistake (or "typo" as some prefer to call them.....).
That will teach me to read PPRuNe while I'm also thinking about flying..
Don't worry, I'll soon find a spelling mistake (or "typo" as some prefer to call them.....).
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Well, I, for one, was flying yesterday 
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque
Does this mean it will go up by only 2.9%? - I somehow doubt it.
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How/to-whom does one apply for a rule 5 exemption for photographic aerial work? what is the likelihood of approval? (floated R44, CPL(H), no AOC)
Scenarios: over water in the vicinity of sailing boats (tall masts) & coastal footage in the vicinity of an open air surf event...
(CAA are shut on sunday, hence asking here, also thought many of you would have personal experience in the matter)
Scenarios: over water in the vicinity of sailing boats (tall masts) & coastal footage in the vicinity of an open air surf event...
(CAA are shut on sunday, hence asking here, also thought many of you would have personal experience in the matter)
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i still think its amazing how it becomes safer when a form is submitted and payment is made
surely a risk assesment from a competent commercial pilot is all that should be required
is it the same in all european countrys? and will it change when EASA gets in total control
surely a risk assesment from a competent commercial pilot is all that should be required
is it the same in all european countrys? and will it change when EASA gets in total control
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No reason it should unless EASA decides to implement pan-European Rules of the Air. The RoA are in UK legislation so it's the UK that is responsible for them and any derogation from them.
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I am not a fan of form filling. But it's really all about a**e covering. The regulatory authority has to justify granting Exemptions/Permissions to any legislation in the ANO. In the case of CAT & AOC holders, they derogate this to the AOC holder - albeit that a conversation might have to happen between the Flt Ops Inspector and a responsible party at the AOC holder.
But for other GA, how can the CAA cover its bum if it's dealing with people it may never have met or inspected?
The completion of the form and the delivering of detail, with its subsequent approval, is a good answer to the risk assessment brigade who would try to have a field day should the operation result in injuries to, particularly, members of the public.
It's pretty easy to develop a good relationship with the appropriate CAA people - it's just a shame they all seem to move-on frequently. IMHO I believe the current charges are fair and proportionate for Rule 5 Exemptions / Rule 6 Permissions.
But for other GA, how can the CAA cover its bum if it's dealing with people it may never have met or inspected?
The completion of the form and the delivering of detail, with its subsequent approval, is a good answer to the risk assessment brigade who would try to have a field day should the operation result in injuries to, particularly, members of the public.
It's pretty easy to develop a good relationship with the appropriate CAA people - it's just a shame they all seem to move-on frequently. IMHO I believe the current charges are fair and proportionate for Rule 5 Exemptions / Rule 6 Permissions.