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Old 15th Oct 2007, 21:07
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Don't say anything more about the 139s, the info isn't out there yet.
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 22:49
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Jayrow with 139's? As with any of the big operators... Ill believe it when I see it.

Bristow is meant to be getting 2 x 139's which sounds much more likley but all credit to Jayrow if theres any weight to that rumour.
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 23:56
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The C++ and AW139 are competitors in the same markets. It's not unheard of to use a C++ as an interim measure until an AW139 becomes available. Maybe that's what's happening here??
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 05:58
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Hey the money sounds great in this lark, I've just been fanging aroud in the 500 lately but looking for a new armchair .
This IFR stuff , sounds pretty easy , I've been trimming up the 500 and closing me eyes for a bit , pretty simple really .
I've got good at it so would that help me through the training ?
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 06:05
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Mate,
No offense, but you wouldn't be "Flapping to Equity" by any chance would ya?
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 19:04
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Flungdung.

Yah done it now mate!
You can criticise our airlines, yah can criticise our towns, and even our women, but you are stooping a wee to low when you start on our beer!

Yah been warned mate.
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Old 17th Oct 2007, 06:46
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Jayrow 3/3 roster

Jayrow would appear to still have a preference for fixed-basing their pilots, in fact I believe only 2 of their mob are tourers. Those guys may well get to live where they want and work a 3/3, but for now the majority of guys will have to relocate just like CHC and Bristows with Darwin/Perth. Given the apparent lack of response to Jayrow's Tooradin fixed-base offshore captain positions it is surely only a matter of time before the company has to allow touring. Lets face it, if you can't get guys to relocate to a job just outside of "cosmo" Melbourne, then you're unlikely to find a bunch of IFR captains ready to live full-time in Karratha!
The company did an awesome job with their maintenance contracts, and as such CHC has lost guys to the Tooradin operation where they alledgedly now earn some of the highest salaries in the field and tour their guys from all over to make it work.
Jayrow,CHC and Bristow must also realise that they would significantly open up their recruiting net if they allowed guys to tour from all over Australia. You have to pay more, but you should have more depth and quality from which to recruit, and it has to be cheaper than bringing guys down from the UK with all the associated relocation costs. Stop turning down the contracts - open up to Australia-wide touring schedules and pass the costs on to the oil companies. They simply cannot keep the business going without offshore helicopter support and if they have to pay more for it, then so be it. With oil at $87 a barrel, I'm sure a few airline tickets is a drop in the ocean.
Rant over.....
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Old 17th Oct 2007, 07:30
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$88/barell
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Old 17th Oct 2007, 08:55
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My point exactly!!
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Old 17th Oct 2007, 09:53
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Ivan

Think you maybe wrong on this front about living at home..

But you are right, the Engineers at Tooradin are the best paid in the Industry, and the most respected ones as well.

Nut!
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Old 17th Oct 2007, 10:10
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If Bristow can afford to pay the equivalent of $130000pa to touring captains from overseas why can't they, and the other two companies, afford to pay the same salary to their home based employees (both fixed based and touring)? I'm sure they all can! So with all EBA's and agreements set to expire next year and the following at all three maybe it's time to remind respective management of this.
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Old 17th Oct 2007, 10:32
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Flung Dung.. You had me in tears of laughter. It's topical... Kylie was asked about the rugby at her premier....
Anyway don't any of you windsurf/surf? Perth would be my dream posting! And Gnarloo is not too far from Karratha... a world class left... DREAM WAVE you know..!? It's about 3kms long and perfect glassy waves with crossoffshore winds....
I am just newby CPLH here in the UK with Kiwi PPL + commercial underslung load and mountain ratings... but if anyone knows how I can get on those programs I would not mind being Bristowised, Jayrowised or any otherised!
Sorry Aus.. I'm a comin! But we are all Brits deep down!

<Bracing for reaction...>
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Old 17th Oct 2007, 10:37
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K48

I am sure the great white sharks that live in the water under that dream wave in WA will give you the ozzie welcome
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Old 17th Oct 2007, 10:39
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Greegrass!

Me thinks you are underpaid!

Certain handful in the sunny MW Shelf are reporting packages of AUD$180K plus Airline Travel free!!

Sshhhhh......don't tell the Poms, they might just stay!
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Old 17th Oct 2007, 10:55
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Loose Mast Nut,

Ivan has his facts right. There are only 2 touring pilots in Jayrow at present and as for $180k in the MW? NW Shelf the guys & gals up there are welcome to it.

The alleged figures you quote are for fixed based positions (not touring) and given that Karatha is the social hub of the universe this stiil adds up to $100k/yr salary and $80k/yr drinking piss so you can forget you live in Karatha.

Max

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Old 17th Oct 2007, 12:56
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hmmm

Shark's dont like us poms.... anyway..

Did I hear someone mention the rugby?
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Old 19th Oct 2007, 23:24
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Poms and 'Rugby'

Guys,

You can hardly call what the Poms are playing "Rugby". Kicking practice for little Johnny perhaps...

For the good of the game, go South Africa!

papa68 - A disappointed Wallaby fan.

P.S. How did we get on to Rugby? Let's focus on something we have won like the Cricket, Rugby League, the MotoGP etc. Ah that's better... world order has been restored.
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 00:55
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Ok granted, Karratha may not be the best place to work/live (consider Shetlands/Nigeria/etc...
Rrrright, last time I checked, Shetland had not featured regularly in the news with Kidnappings, shootings and an assortment of violent crime which is associated with Nigeria.

With friendly locals and wildlife and a clean & unspoilt enviroment, it ain't even in the same ballpark.
Granted the winter weather can test you but thats where you find the nearest cosy pub. You can even wander around in the hours of darkness if you like.
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 01:57
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Karratha.

AusWhirlyBus,

Good to have a ppruner with inside info who can dispel the pay figures being quoted for Karratha.

Here's what Bristows have been offering Aussie Based contractors.

First Officer
$400 Per day daily rate, $97 DTA plus 9% Super. Airfares from the East Coast. Paid fortnightly.

Am I missing something, or are you saying the English are getting better and higher offers than the Aussies?

Australian rates are improving and it is hard to justify working overseas with the exchange rate and family instability that touring creates. Karratha is great for kids I am told.

What is the fixed base package and please do not tell me that Tooradin crap of 180K!

Safe Skies.
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 10:53
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A quick question. How does one get into offshore companies from the private sector? With an ATPL and no multi engine time?
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