What is your helicopter carbon footprint?
Rotorbee - makes almost as much sense as a guy who invents Dynamite and Nitroglycerine putting his name to a peace prize in the first place
@crab ... that was strange. I have seen a different version of your last post 10 minutes ago. I sounded like you did not know where the Nobel Prize comes from.
Alfred Nobel did not invent nitro-glycerine. He invented a save way to detonate it and later a save way to store it - Dynamite. Nitro-glycerine was way to instable for military use and very often there where terrible accidents with that stuff in mines and tunnels. His interest was to find a safe way to handle it.
Nobel hated war but made a lot of money during the Krim war with Ballistit. Probably to offset this, he created the Nobel prizes. I would say this is a normal human reaction.
BTW ... do crabs get very dangerous when cornered?
Alfred Nobel did not invent nitro-glycerine. He invented a save way to detonate it and later a save way to store it - Dynamite. Nitro-glycerine was way to instable for military use and very often there where terrible accidents with that stuff in mines and tunnels. His interest was to find a safe way to handle it.
Nobel hated war but made a lot of money during the Krim war with Ballistit. Probably to offset this, he created the Nobel prizes. I would say this is a normal human reaction.
BTW ... do crabs get very dangerous when cornered?
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Bravo 73 and Rotorbee
It's widely reported, I could have used any number of sources.
What a grown-up pair you are, aren't you. Again not being able to accept that what disagrees with your view of the world is acceptable.
I wait for some sniggering, schoolboy remark to reply.
It's widely reported, I could have used any number of sources.
What a grown-up pair you are, aren't you. Again not being able to accept that what disagrees with your view of the world is acceptable.
I wait for some sniggering, schoolboy remark to reply.
I've just expressed my surprise a couple of times at your choice of material that you use to substantiate your argument.
Your beef lies with Rotorbee, I'm afraid.
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Thanks for that. I think you know that I could have sourced any number of publications including the Guardian. My mistake of course, to make that assumption but I understand there is a touch of "Devil's Advocate" about your post me Old.
BTW the Guardian link is http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen.../climatechange
As for Rotorbee, I note he hasn't replied yet despite getting his knickers in a twist over my 2 hours away from the computer. Maybe his wife has allowed him to have the car and he's out burning CO2?
Thanks for that. I think you know that I could have sourced any number of publications including the Guardian. My mistake of course, to make that assumption but I understand there is a touch of "Devil's Advocate" about your post me Old.
BTW the Guardian link is http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen.../climatechange
As for Rotorbee, I note he hasn't replied yet despite getting his knickers in a twist over my 2 hours away from the computer. Maybe his wife has allowed him to have the car and he's out burning CO2?
Rotorbee - yes, shock horror, I posted on impulse and then checked my facts because I was convinced I had made an error. Shame you global warmers can't do the same
If by normal human reaction you mean 'do something bad for the world to make money and then try to redress the balance by throwing some of that money at it' then I think you sum up most of the Governments in the world and many of the large businesses.
Crabs, dangerous? Only when I'm flying
If by normal human reaction you mean 'do something bad for the world to make money and then try to redress the balance by throwing some of that money at it' then I think you sum up most of the Governments in the world and many of the large businesses.
Crabs, dangerous? Only when I'm flying
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The award of the Nobel Prize for a Global Warming advocate sends a strong message on where the Nobel Committee stands on the debate. Giving it to Al Gore was a calculated slap on the face for the Bush administration, the folks who taught lawyers how to edit scientific papers.
Any comments from the "head in the sand" crowd?
Any comments from the "head in the sand" crowd?
They just don't like Bush and his administration - they're not exactly alone there.
The prize is, I suggest, more for the raising of awareness of climate issues than a copper-bottomed validation of Al's scientific credentials.
The prize is, I suggest, more for the raising of awareness of climate issues than a copper-bottomed validation of Al's scientific credentials.
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Originally Posted by Nimby
(2) I subscribe to a 'think tank' which has been weighing up the direct evidence/arguments and by and large we think the evidence is in line with what the Hadley Research Centre has been saying...
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Can any of the supporters of the theory of climate change tell me exactly what is in store for us and how soon is it going to occur? If one of the results is the death of millions, nay, billions of humans then I see this as a good thing. There is one fact - the earth cannot support the future predicted population growth regardless of what action any government body takes.
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I refer you to pages iv for cause and v for effect. The data is all fully referenced in the main report (which I'm sure you can find on your own)
http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/media/...ve_Summary.pdf
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I refer you to pages iv for cause and v for effect. The data is all fully referenced in the main report (which I'm sure you can find on your own)
http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/media/...ve_Summary.pdf
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Sorry that I did not come up with a good reply, I thought we got over it and the thread finally died.
I am going to read the fourth ICPP report first (or a least part of it). That will take quite a while and after that we will see. Unfortunately some of it will be published in 2008. You are free to make any jokes about my carbon footprint; I really like a good laugh.
How does a crab move the pedals? And which pair of feet are they using?
Sorry that I did not come up with a good reply, I thought we got over it and the thread finally died.
I am going to read the fourth ICPP report first (or a least part of it). That will take quite a while and after that we will see. Unfortunately some of it will be published in 2008. You are free to make any jokes about my carbon footprint; I really like a good laugh.
How does a crab move the pedals? And which pair of feet are they using?
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If one of the results is the death of millions, nay, billions of humans then I see this as a good thing.
Maybe Dr William Gray should be "googled" and his comments read or is he the lone dissenting voice that obviously can't be believed?
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Careful ...
Maybe Dr William Gray should be "googled" and his comments read or is he the lone dissenting voice that obviously can't be believed?
http://www.spinwatch.org/content/view/3676/9/
which, if you look, shows that:
A new study by the Center for Media and Democracy says Americans are still being shown corporate public relations videos disguised as news reports on newscasts across the country. In April, the Center identified 77 stations using Video News Releases in their newscasts. The findings led to an investigation by the FCC. A follow-up study has found 10 of those stations are still airing VNRs today for a total of 46 stations in 22 states.
The point is that TCS (the people who generated the Video News Release) was owned by the Republican lobbyist, DCI Group. TCS was also the recipient of a $95,000 grant from the oil giant ExxonMobil for, quote, "climate change support." yet this was NEVER revealed by the broadcasters, who pass it off as news.
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Gentlemen (and others.....),
I've allowed a great deal of licence regarding thread drift on this topic: it's now time to get back to the issue of helicopter carbon footprint, please
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I've allowed a great deal of licence regarding thread drift on this topic: it's now time to get back to the issue of helicopter carbon footprint, please
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Helicopter Carbon Footprint
Any of you that want to know where your business stands should contact www.carbontrust.co.uk . It's one of those simple truths that saving the planet usually means saving money as well.
With respect to a helicopter's Carbon Footprint - sadly those donkeys know how to drink!
For every 1,000 litres of Kerosene you put in you will produce 2.52 tonnes of CO2 - enough said
(see http://www.resurgence.org/carboncalculator/ for a nice, simple tool which covers many fuels).
... as Cyclic said back on the 1st ...
With respect to a helicopter's Carbon Footprint - sadly those donkeys know how to drink!
For every 1,000 litres of Kerosene you put in you will produce 2.52 tonnes of CO2 - enough said
(see http://www.resurgence.org/carboncalculator/ for a nice, simple tool which covers many fuels).
... as Cyclic said back on the 1st ...
Better get planting some trees there boys!
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FWF,
The head of the Australian Federal Police stated some weeks back that migration based on survival needs poses a far greater threat to Oz and the rest of the Western world than, in his opinion, does terrorism. I am well aware of the many permutations and combinations - I wonder how many others are!
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The head of the Australian Federal Police stated some weeks back that migration based on survival needs poses a far greater threat to Oz and the rest of the Western world than, in his opinion, does terrorism. I am well aware of the many permutations and combinations - I wonder how many others are!
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