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Old 4th Aug 2007, 22:23
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Sorry pal, I'm not with you, try reading what? If you are referring to post #1 by Pontious, I read it before I made my comments and nothing has changed. The inclusion of a weather report in that announcement, in my opinion, was uncalled for.

Your opinion is obviously not the same as mine, go ahead and post your opinion if you have something to say. That might be a better option than a smarmy comment.

Back to the thread.....Can anyone confirm that it was an R44 or do we still not know?

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Old 4th Aug 2007, 22:26
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Film report on ITV news a few minutes ago showed it to be an R44.
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Old 4th Aug 2007, 22:41
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BBc also confirms it as an Robinson44

This is a tragedy, but I failed to mention that the border bulletin earlier stated they were on their way to a wedding, this makes it even sadder, I think
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Old 4th Aug 2007, 22:46
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Yeh,
Pretty sure I saw G-OSSI R44.
3 years old, registered to an owner in Bradford
on Public Transort.
Archived pictures show the airframe displaying
'Goss Air"

Condolences to family, colleagues and friends on yet another sad outcome in aviation
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Old 4th Aug 2007, 22:52
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ITN news just showed the wreckage of this aircraft.Very sad.
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Old 4th Aug 2007, 22:52
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Nobody is disputing this is a terrible accident, and will destroy more lives than the four confirmed fatalities, however how many of these posting has there been over the years. Every genuine pilot out there knows where this is going distasteful or not.

Don't shoot the messenger.
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Old 4th Aug 2007, 22:57
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Owned by Goss Air Ltd

Looks like it may have been a Public Transport Flight as Weddings appears to be a speciality of the company

http://www.gossair.co.uk/flights.html

What a tragedy if it was on a wedding job

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Old 4th Aug 2007, 23:05
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Old 5th Aug 2007, 01:51
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Don't fool yourself, genuine pilots will not be passing judgement at this stage.

Does anyone know if this operation is anything to do with my old pal Mick?

What a tragedy.

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Old 5th Aug 2007, 06:57
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It has become a regular argument on Prune whether people should speculate or the old 'wait for the enquiry' pleas. This is a rumour network. I agree that falsely accusing someone of taking a poor course of action is wrong, but posting a weather report is not really a problem. To be honest, most pilots first thought will be please not one of my friends/condolences to family. Second thoughts usually are what type and what was the weather like?
My heart goes out to the families in their loss, I hope they get all the answers to their questions as quickly as possible.
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Old 5th Aug 2007, 07:15
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Well - I've looked for GOSS AIR on the latest (20/7/7) CAA AOC list.

No sign.
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Old 5th Aug 2007, 08:17
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Jim Ball - could they have been operating on someone else's AOC? - quite possible if just a single aircraft operation.

I don't feel that anybody has speculated excessively on this thread or been disrespectful to the deceased or their families.

IMHO posting the weather at the time was entirely relevant - nobody has drawn any conclusions yet but at least we have a clearer picture of the circumstances surrounding this tragic loss.

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Old 5th Aug 2007, 08:57
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IMO posting the wx also paints a picture of how difficult the search and rescue/recovery might have been. So I'd say it is relevant.
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Old 5th Aug 2007, 09:07
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Tam - Your not referring to Mick Goss ex AAC are you?

If you are I'm afraid I have some bad news for you.

He is unconnected with this accident.
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Old 5th Aug 2007, 09:35
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Would that be Tam of the inadvertant crewman initiated engine off variety by any chance?
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Old 5th Aug 2007, 09:39
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Letsby: I certainly hope that that was not a reference to wingnut too - RIP.
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Old 5th Aug 2007, 10:13
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Scooter: I hope not.
Single engine CAT at night in the UK..........
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Old 5th Aug 2007, 10:16
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i may be wrong but isnt the heli based at multiflight and uses their aoc ?
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Old 5th Aug 2007, 11:57
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Eye witness report.

http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/s...name_page.html
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Old 5th Aug 2007, 12:16
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Re. Eye Witness Report

The farm manager having been told of the situation: "went to the crash scene with his son John, nine."

He is reported to have said: "It was not very pleasant to see, especially for my young son."

WTF??
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