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Old 30th Jul 2007, 05:58
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I watched a program the other day where the free swimmer/ Winch man was placed on a fishing boat the cage was lowered to him and an injured fisherman was placed in it.
Looked pretty good on the Guardian with Kevin Costner!
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Old 30th Jul 2007, 07:34
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We already carry infant lift bags Max, catch up with the program
Apologies Crab, I wasn't aware that the CG S61 that attended also carries infant lift bags.

Again, a question to those that were there. Would Human Cargo Systems have assisted? Although not yet used in the UK, they look like they were almost designed for this sort of thing.
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Old 30th Jul 2007, 09:03
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"Apologies Crab, I wasn't aware that the CG S61 that attended also carries infant lift bags."

Yes they do
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Old 30th Jul 2007, 09:44
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Rescue cages?

Invented in the UK, I think. Lt.Cdr Sproule RN IIRC.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0026957&size=M

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Old 30th Jul 2007, 10:10
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Rescue Baskets

Based on my, tragic, experience I would advise you to steer clear of them unless you have a full time rescue swimmer to go into the water. Using them to take people off decks is particularly hazardous. The only time a rescue basket should be used, IMHO, without a rescue swimmer is to take survivors out of contaminated water. Steer clear, a very bad idea.
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Old 30th Jul 2007, 10:55
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Max - I wonder if your PMA information is as woefully out of date as your operational info.....we have carried the Child Rescue Valise (cracking name Gromit) for many months and, out of interest, it was used during the Gloucester floods to save a man's life. He was spotted by the RadOp being carried along by the floodwater; unfortunately the winchman had just been deployed and was attending to a casualty inside a caravan. The quick-thinking Radop deployed the CRV and pattered the aircraft downstream of the man in the water who managed to grab hold and was winched to safety. Pat on the back for those involved

You might also like to know that despite your mean-spirited assertion that once or twice a year isn't sufficient to warrant 2nd standby, they carried out many rescues and much vital assistance during the flood period and were a very welcome sight to both the emergency services and the public.
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Old 30th Jul 2007, 12:29
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You might also like to know that despite your mean-spirited assertion that once or twice a year isn't sufficient to warrant 2nd standby, they carried out many rescues and much vital assistance during the flood period and were a very welcome sight to both the emergency services and the public.
Crab - No one is disputing the above comments. If you pause your personal attacks long enough to read my posts, I am trying to point out that the ARCC have 6 X 1st standby aircraft available to go to Gloucester that will get there quicker than a mil 2nd standby. Just because we do something today does not make it the most efficient way of doing it tommorow.
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Old 31st Jul 2007, 19:13
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Max - more simplistic, uninformed tosh - the weather at the time was 2 -300' cloudbase in heavy rain so the East Coast aircraft had a devil of a job getting there - Chivenor's second cab was there before them.

Just because the computer draws straight lines and gives non-weather affected theoretical response times, does not make it so in the real event. If it had happened in Winter it would have been worse since only the closest would have been able to respond at all as an IF option wouldn't have been available.

And BTW you are the one who keeps disputing the value of seconds - if you had your way they wouldn't have existed and therefore wouldn't have helped people.
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