EC 175
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From: Aberdeen
EC 175
Hi,
just looking for any info thats on offer other than a company website. Our operation is looking at going onto EC 175s next year, can you offer any info you may have on them, good or bad. What similarites do they share with its brothers and sisters. Any expierience with them etc etc
thanks
just looking for any info thats on offer other than a company website. Our operation is looking at going onto EC 175s next year, can you offer any info you may have on them, good or bad. What similarites do they share with its brothers and sisters. Any expierience with them etc etc
thanks
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From: On the Beach
Masterpiece of French-Chinese engineering?
Can't keep from asking myself, who might fancy a helicopter designed, build, tested and certificated by french and chinese. Would the same guy buying such a helicopter also buy a french-chinese car for his wife and children?
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CheckBall
Maybe the same who fly the EC120 (Jointly designed, developed and assembled by EC,CATIC and Harbin). 
And by the way, you should know that EC is not French but German, French and Spanish so you're free to insult the French if you like it, but please, don't use the name of EC for that, except if you hate the German and Spanish too.
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Can't keep from asking myself, who might fancy a helicopter designed, build, tested and certificated by french and chinese
And by the way, you should know that EC is not French but German, French and Spanish so you're free to insult the French if you like it, but please, don't use the name of EC for that, except if you hate the German and Spanish too.
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Last edited by HeliHenri; 25th October 2012 at 09:22.
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Well Henry,
Correct me if I am wrong, but the German side of Eurocopter is called ECD and the spanish part is nothing more than a Subsidiary, So EC could very well be confined to the gallic part of that company.
As opposed to your reply, my posting was not meant as a personal insult, rather as a comment on the outstanding quality of craftsmanship these two great nations are known for. Also I believe that all developments are done in Marignanne, France, and not in Spain or Germany.
Here is something to think about for you: Critique exercised to a certain manufacturer, lets say a french one, does not necessarily mean that this critique covers the whole nation and every individual of that nation.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the German side of Eurocopter is called ECD and the spanish part is nothing more than a Subsidiary, So EC could very well be confined to the gallic part of that company.
As opposed to your reply, my posting was not meant as a personal insult, rather as a comment on the outstanding quality of craftsmanship these two great nations are known for. Also I believe that all developments are done in Marignanne, France, and not in Spain or Germany.
Here is something to think about for you: Critique exercised to a certain manufacturer, lets say a french one, does not necessarily mean that this critique covers the whole nation and every individual of that nation.
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Well Check Ball, you seem to be very precise so yes, you're wrong : the spanish part is not "nothing more than a subsidiary", it's a full part of EC called Eurocopter Espańa (thank's for them).
Sorry, I miss understood your point : just a critique exercised to a certain helicopter manufacturer isn't it ? So why did you speak about car manufacturers in your first post and "great" nations in your second ?...
Anyway, happy that you're only after the French and Chinese (mind, you don't know them well…), the German and Spanish don't deserve it.
And if the 120 is not amazing, it's quite a good aircraft. God, how is this possible ?!!!
Return to the topic : about the 175, it flies, that's all we can say at the present time.
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Sorry, I miss understood your point : just a critique exercised to a certain helicopter manufacturer isn't it ? So why did you speak about car manufacturers in your first post and "great" nations in your second ?...
Anyway, happy that you're only after the French and Chinese (mind, you don't know them well…), the German and Spanish don't deserve it.
And if the 120 is not amazing, it's quite a good aircraft. God, how is this possible ?!!!
Return to the topic : about the 175, it flies, that's all we can say at the present time.
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Last edited by HeliHenri; 25th October 2012 at 16:46.
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From: 1 Dunghill Mansions, Putney
Originally Posted by Dry Wretched Thunder
just looking for any info thats on offer other than a company website. Our operation is looking at going onto EC 175s next year, can you offer any info you may have on them, good or bad. What similarites do they share with its brothers and sisters. Any expierience with them etc etc
Regarding commonality with other EC types, as posted previously the 4-axis AFCS is common with that on the EC225 and the tail rotor is reportedly derived from that on the Tiger. The 'Helionix' avionics suite will also be common with that on the EC145 T2 and other unspecified future models.
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From: Hassocks, Mid-Sussex
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The Eurocopter EC175 is making progress toward certification.
Transport Canada has already certified Pratt & Whitney Canada’s 1,775-shp PT6C-67E turboshaft.
EC has now revealed the precise mtow for the helicopter: 16,535 pounds.
The radius of action, for two pilots and up to 16 passengers, is given as 135 nm (oil and gas configuration, JAR OPS 3, fuel reserves 30 minutes plus 10-percent contingency fuel, ISA conditions).
Transport Canada has already certified Pratt & Whitney Canada’s 1,775-shp PT6C-67E turboshaft.
EC has now revealed the precise mtow for the helicopter: 16,535 pounds.
The radius of action, for two pilots and up to 16 passengers, is given as 135 nm (oil and gas configuration, JAR OPS 3, fuel reserves 30 minutes plus 10-percent contingency fuel, ISA conditions).
I wonder what the MGB OEI limits will be, will they be able to use the full 1991 hp?
Any guess what the fuel burn will be in cruise? Would 450 kgs be a reasonable guess? If so that should give about 4 hrs fuel. I understand that the 189 is undergoing a fairly major design modification as at present it only has about 3 hrs fuel.
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From: Royal Leamington Spa
Looks like the Airbus AH175 
is to complete its flight testing by the end of the month.
Flight Global
is to complete its flight testing by the end of the month.Flight Global
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From: Terminal 5
Sliding Door
Does anyone know if the sliding door can be jettiisoned? From the pictures I have seen if it is open it appears to neatly block the rear row escape windows. This follows on from the discussion on the recent L2 ditching and survivability/escapement through sliding doors.
I'm sure EC (AH!) have thought this through - at least I hope so.
I'm sure EC (AH!) have thought this through - at least I hope so.
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SANUS
I will get some information for you it's just not to hand right now. I flew the machine in the picture in Louisiana. It's a stunning helicopter and the windows are huge. Visibility from any seat is like sitting in the pope mobile.
It's DAFSC is based on EC225 but with significant further features like co-ordinated Groundspeed turns and Flight Path Angle approaches.
Absolutely no vibration. Stacks of power. Multilayer display technology. No switches, gauges or lights in the O/H panel and no quadrant.
One Bristow's Training Captain called it a "Magic Flying Carpet"
I will get some information for you it's just not to hand right now. I flew the machine in the picture in Louisiana. It's a stunning helicopter and the windows are huge. Visibility from any seat is like sitting in the pope mobile.
It's DAFSC is based on EC225 but with significant further features like co-ordinated Groundspeed turns and Flight Path Angle approaches.
Absolutely no vibration. Stacks of power. Multilayer display technology. No switches, gauges or lights in the O/H panel and no quadrant.
One Bristow's Training Captain called it a "Magic Flying Carpet"
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From: 1 Dunghill Mansions, Putney
Originally Posted by Sanus
Does anyone know if the sliding door can be jettiisoned?
Originally Posted by Anthony Supplebottom
Airbus AH175
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The certification process of the EC175 has been successfully completed. On January 27, 2014, the European Aviation Safety Agency’s (EASA) Internal Safety Committee formally approved the recommendation of the EC175 Project Certification Team to grant the EC175 with EASA type certification.EASA will officially issue the type certificate in the coming days.