Civilian SAR Aircraft
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Civilian SAR Aircraft
I am trying to find out more about the SAR aircraft and future SAR aircraft in the UK. Can anyone enlighten me please? I am ex-RN with some knowledge of the Mil system.
I suspect there will be plenty of people out there who can enlighten me?
I suspect there will be plenty of people out there who can enlighten me?
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Dear Wiretensioner, nice handle! - thanks for the comment. I hope it is not like the thread about the Marine one (if you caught that one). I am sure LM will be looking to put a version of the 101 in this slot, so will be interested to hear the views of others.
Do you have an interest?
Do you have an interest?
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I do indeed. Presently flying on the S-61, shortly moving to CHC and the S-92. We will see it for the first time in July. I will reserve judgement till then. As for the future and SAR Harmonization, who knows.
Standby for the onslaught of opinions.
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Look's like our new toy has finally arrived.
One thing has always eluded me, how do you get into it? Is it via the main sliding door or up the rear ramp, I recently asked Peter Dymond this and he didn't know.
Wiretensioner good luck on the conversion to the S92 and we will hear you on the FM sometime soon.
One thing has always eluded me, how do you get into it? Is it via the main sliding door or up the rear ramp, I recently asked Peter Dymond this and he didn't know.
Wiretensioner good luck on the conversion to the S92 and we will hear you on the FM sometime soon.
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Sarco, you will probably use the main slding door most of the time and not even need the mini step, the entry height is not too bad. You could use the ramp if you like, but you will probably want to keep it buttoned up when its cold outside.
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And the Nightsun is STILL on the port side; can the pilot illuminate stuff he wants to look at?
WHY do Sikorsky do this? It was the same on the S-76 and the Blackhawk, the starboard side is much better.
BTW, the info about how to get in the aircraft is in the Flight Manual, behind the pilot's seat 
I'm jealous though - gizza job?
WHY do Sikorsky do this? It was the same on the S-76 and the Blackhawk, the starboard side is much better.
"Off you go now, go and chase that smuggler's speedboat and illuminate it......."
Reply: "What, both at the same time? If we put the Nightsun on it I can't see the boat... or if I can see the boat, the Nightsun beam won't go high enough...."
Reply: "What, both at the same time? If we put the Nightsun on it I can't see the boat... or if I can see the boat, the Nightsun beam won't go high enough...."
I'm jealous though - gizza job?
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Hey Shetlander,
What's that green thing visible under the tail? I don't remember seeing many of them.
On another tack did Sikorsky find some way to protect the titanium head from lightning strikes? Lots of them about and an aircraft with a fair amount of composites will get struck a fair amount of times up there. I saw the 92 in Florida and that's a lot of beautiful titanium. Nick or someone?
What's that green thing visible under the tail? I don't remember seeing many of them.
On another tack did Sikorsky find some way to protect the titanium head from lightning strikes? Lots of them about and an aircraft with a fair amount of composites will get struck a fair amount of times up there. I saw the 92 in Florida and that's a lot of beautiful titanium. Nick or someone?
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What if the pilot's a she? (before one of the women jump on you for that, as they doubtless shall)
. We none of us, male or female, go through life saying "he or she" in respect of everything. The expression could sometimes be replaced by the nebulous "they" but that is grammatically incorrect since there is only one pilot! Cheers
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What if the pilot's a she?
Jeez, it increasingly appears that it isn't possible to even ask a question without some P****n with nothing sensible to add wanting to cause trouble over the most minor points, unconnected with the thread. I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion it's time I bugged out of this website for good (sad to say that after close to twelve and a half years).
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Mr Toad,
The latest FAR/JAR have very stringent rules on lightning strike protection. It is my belief that these regs protect the 92 and the 139 to an extent not possible with earlier aircraft.
BTW there is nothing especially significant about Ti for lightning strikes, any more than aluminum or steel. The issue with metals is allowing the charge to run along a clean electrical path, rather than having it jump as a spark between two areas, which creates a pit. This pit then creates a stress riser that allows a crack to form and grow. The S92 has many bonding paths and jumpers to allow the charge to run happily without sparking. Also, modern criteria for fatigue life require that these pits cannot form cracks (called "flaw tolerance"). I believe the charge size and conductance for modern helos (latest FAR/JAR) are considerable better than older regs, so the chances for a pit are far lower.
The issue with composites is the charge buildup during the strike that causes them to explode or shatter.
The latest FAR/JAR have very stringent rules on lightning strike protection. It is my belief that these regs protect the 92 and the 139 to an extent not possible with earlier aircraft.
BTW there is nothing especially significant about Ti for lightning strikes, any more than aluminum or steel. The issue with metals is allowing the charge to run along a clean electrical path, rather than having it jump as a spark between two areas, which creates a pit. This pit then creates a stress riser that allows a crack to form and grow. The S92 has many bonding paths and jumpers to allow the charge to run happily without sparking. Also, modern criteria for fatigue life require that these pits cannot form cracks (called "flaw tolerance"). I believe the charge size and conductance for modern helos (latest FAR/JAR) are considerable better than older regs, so the chances for a pit are far lower.
The issue with composites is the charge buildup during the strike that causes them to explode or shatter.
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Ah no ShyT, there's no need to go off in low dudgeon just 'cos someone decided to burn my bra for me (I'm a girl so totally unreliable with all things pyrotechnic!! ).
There might be many reasons why some women would jump on you but sexism isn't one of them!
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).There might be many reasons why some women would jump on you but sexism isn't one of them!
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Thanks Nick; I wish the 92 well and hope she will be a fitting successor to the 61 which has a distinguished SAR history.
Good luck to all those involved in SAR work, civil or military.
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Thanks Nick; I wish the 92 well and hope she will be a fitting successor to the 61 which has a distinguished SAR history.
Good luck to all those involved in SAR work, civil or military.
Can anyone elaborate on the lighting fit for the SAR 92? Does it have steerable spotlights (other than the nitesun) for the pilots and does it have hover/flood lights in the sponsons to illuminate the winching area?
And before anyone starts, there is no hidden agenda or 'my dad's bigger' etc - I am just asking a question.
And before anyone starts, there is no hidden agenda or 'my dad's bigger' etc - I am just asking a question.