NSW Rescue Helicopters (CHC)
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NSW Rescue Helicopters (CHC)
Deos anyone have any photos of the new livery of the CHC machines that have the new N.S.W. ems/rescue contracts? Or a website with photos?
Also can anyone enlighten me on what the problem was on their first day of ops a few weeks ago? I heard something on the news about a machine with smoke filling the cabin, all avionics u/s and oil running down the windows!!!
Anyone know what happened?
Cheers
Angus
Also can anyone enlighten me on what the problem was on their first day of ops a few weeks ago? I heard something on the news about a machine with smoke filling the cabin, all avionics u/s and oil running down the windows!!!
Anyone know what happened?
Cheers
Angus
There's an article about it on the SMH website here
I don't have any photos, but anyone who works at Bankstown see's them around quite a bit - they always seem to be flying. I think they're operating 3x 412's at the moment, with a AW139 scheduled to arrive sometime early next year.
As for the smoke filling the cabin, its detailed in the article listed above. In short, they were out at night (AFAIK) and a "catastrophic electrical failure" occured leading to "Communications went out, there was smoke from the side, oil coming down the window and the helicopter had to turn around immediately,"".
I don't have any photos, but anyone who works at Bankstown see's them around quite a bit - they always seem to be flying. I think they're operating 3x 412's at the moment, with a AW139 scheduled to arrive sometime early next year.
As for the smoke filling the cabin, its detailed in the article listed above. In short, they were out at night (AFAIK) and a "catastrophic electrical failure" occured leading to "Communications went out, there was smoke from the side, oil coming down the window and the helicopter had to turn around immediately,"".
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Turning around!!! I would have thought they would have been putting down on the nearest oval or paddock if smoke and oil were issuing from the aircraft and they had no electrics or communications !!
I would have thought that would be a contender for an emergency landing somewhere! Unless of course they had just lifed off and hadnt actually departed the base yet.
What does everyone else think?
I would have thought that would be a contender for an emergency landing somewhere! Unless of course they had just lifed off and hadnt actually departed the base yet.
What does everyone else think?
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Electrical failure, smoke etc, yes. Oil coming down the windows?
Always knew that electricity worked on smoke - when the smoke escapes it stops working! - but had no idea it also worked on oil.
Always knew that electricity worked on smoke - when the smoke escapes it stops working! - but had no idea it also worked on oil.
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Tactial 71 type in www.myaviation.net go to advanced search and in rego type in vh-eph and it will come up with 2 photographs of the helicopter colours
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Coyote, do mean that emergency landings are not possible at night? Or just that it would be safer to turn around and try and make it back to the airport which is where they are based.
I know I wouldnt want to risk trying to fly back to the airport unless it was well within my auto glide slope just in case. Would rather put down in a park, oval, or anywhere clear that could see.
I appreciate that it was night time, but day or night, if you crash you crash!
I know I wouldnt want to risk trying to fly back to the airport unless it was well within my auto glide slope just in case. Would rather put down in a park, oval, or anywhere clear that could see.
I appreciate that it was night time, but day or night, if you crash you crash!
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These (incidents) are not unexpected ... it's part of the business ...
other threads have recently spent endless drooll stupifying any suggestion that the above remark is at all accepted by any standard when referring to any modern twin rotorcraft. Or did I miss something??
as far as turning back, bloody hell, only if its in the landing pattern and suburbia is prevalent below.
tactical71,
I don't mean either, and am not commenting on that at all, I was just raising the question as it does impact upon decision making.
Without fully knowing the facts, the malfunctions and the indications that presented, how can anyone comment on whether the pilot made the right decisions or not?
I still work off the basic premise that in the absence of evidence, judgement in this country is based upon being innocent until proven guilty.
The only fact that I know is that they made a safe landing, and by virtue of that fact alone, the decisions the pilot made that led to that outcome should be commended rather than criticised.
I don't mean either, and am not commenting on that at all, I was just raising the question as it does impact upon decision making.
Without fully knowing the facts, the malfunctions and the indications that presented, how can anyone comment on whether the pilot made the right decisions or not?
I still work off the basic premise that in the absence of evidence, judgement in this country is based upon being innocent until proven guilty.
The only fact that I know is that they made a safe landing, and by virtue of that fact alone, the decisions the pilot made that led to that outcome should be commended rather than criticised.
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Wooooo there Coyote. I wasnt criticising or having a go at the pilot at all. As you said they landed safely. Well done to them. I was just pointing out what I would have done in the circumstances presented in the article. And it may well be, that the details are competley out of proportion to what actually happened.
BUT, being that this is an industry message forum and not a court room, we can speculate. And specualte we do. As long as we do it in here and we politely and dont go too far with our comments.
As I said, I was merely stating what I would have done in the given circumstances according to the news article, which is all the info we, and the public at large, seem to be able to get at the moment.
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BUT, being that this is an industry message forum and not a court room, we can speculate. And specualte we do. As long as we do it in here and we politely and dont go too far with our comments.
As I said, I was merely stating what I would have done in the given circumstances according to the news article, which is all the info we, and the public at large, seem to be able to get at the moment.
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Coyote's apprehension about an off location landing is that where we used to work you would not want to put the leaver down anywhere except the airport or offshore.
Our brand new (and brand old) Sikorskys regularly came home with additional ventilation ports
Only an engineer could call them that!
Anyway mate, how are the nipple nippers going?
Our brand new (and brand old) Sikorskys regularly came home with additional ventilation ports
Only an engineer could call them that!
Anyway mate, how are the nipple nippers going?
Tactical, this is the same as crew room conversation for me, its easy to misread the emotion, if any, that is attached to the written word, and I'm just having a friendly yap here. 
IHG, going well thanks! Ahhhh, the thought of a good nights sleep though......
IHG, going well thanks! Ahhhh, the thought of a good nights sleep though......
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The amount of misinformation being generated by a few petty individuals who work for one of the unsucessful bidders to the NSW helicopter contract, who leak this imformation to the politcal opposition party, which turn ends up in the media is quickly becoming farcical.
This particular bit of information started when the medical officer on board the aircraft emailed people within the organisation that employs him.
What was not reported by the media, and having spoken to the medical officer directly myself, was how impress he was with the calmness and professionalism of the pilot during this incident.
i have not seen the final report by CHC into this incident, however as far as I understand, there was a problem with one of the generators which caused a comms failure tothe back of the aircraft and problem with cabin lighting.
There was certainly no mention of oil or smoke made by an other member of the crew.
Not being a pilot myself, I don't claim to understand all the implication of such a failure of one of the genertors; however but as someone who has worked in EMS for many years now, the way in which CHC has conducted itself in investigating this issue, only reassures me more to fly with them.
To the individuals, who spread rumours into the media, which only acts to frighten the community who will all strive to serve, it is probably time to grow up a bit.
This particular bit of information started when the medical officer on board the aircraft emailed people within the organisation that employs him.
What was not reported by the media, and having spoken to the medical officer directly myself, was how impress he was with the calmness and professionalism of the pilot during this incident.
i have not seen the final report by CHC into this incident, however as far as I understand, there was a problem with one of the generators which caused a comms failure tothe back of the aircraft and problem with cabin lighting.
There was certainly no mention of oil or smoke made by an other member of the crew.
Not being a pilot myself, I don't claim to understand all the implication of such a failure of one of the genertors; however but as someone who has worked in EMS for many years now, the way in which CHC has conducted itself in investigating this issue, only reassures me more to fly with them.
To the individuals, who spread rumours into the media, which only acts to frighten the community who will all strive to serve, it is probably time to grow up a bit.
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Nozza.....CHILL OUT DUDE!!!! No one is having a go at the pilot, aircrewman, SCATie, or the Doc. We all know that media will make something out of nothing. Thats always been the case and always will be the case. Having worked, and still working, in EMS/Emergency services for over 17years, I have learnt to take the word of media with a grain of salt. As the initial author of this thread, I was merely asking if anyone knew what might have happneded as I had only heard bits over the news on tele.
And remember Nozza, this is a "Rumour Network" (PPRuNe)
If things arent mature enough for you in here, then no ones making you stay in here. We are all just here for a bit of fun and networking!
I hope you stay on board though.
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What the?
Just another Trick, I'm not sure what your saying here?
1. You suspect a cover up?
2. You want to know what happened?
3. You're not quite sure what you expect to know at this point in time?
I'm all for the rumour network I'm just missing your point I guess, sorry.
Quickdraw.
1. You suspect a cover up?
2. You want to know what happened?
3. You're not quite sure what you expect to know at this point in time?
I'm all for the rumour network
I'm just missing your point I guess, sorry.Quickdraw.
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"You saw the story on a rumour network?"
'Errr, yes yer 'onor'
"go on? get out of here"
If you've got a story to tell and you don't want to put your name to it, why don't you fill out a C.A.I.R form?
'Errr, yes yer 'onor'
"go on? get out of here"
If you've got a story to tell and you don't want to put your name to it, why don't you fill out a C.A.I.R form?